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help. can i import a bike which licence are not on my name.
Im interested in buying a motorbike in spain and bring it to Mondivideo or BA. I am not a Spanish citizen so I cannot registered or switch the bike to be on my name. i dont want to get stuck in realising the motorbike at customs: i will have the bike registration papers and a buyers contract. Is it enough?
I read thabout travellers buying their bike from fellow travellers (inland) without having the possibility to register it in their name And it works(understood a notary is enough in this case) the quotation is if I would be allowed by custom to enter the bike and get temporary relise permission in my case? Perhaps someone can clarify this for me? If by any chance some one knows a company that can sort it all out I will appriciat it. thanks 2 u all. Matan
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Basic rule is that all documentation - passport, ownership papers and registration documents - have to be in the same name OR extra documents provided that fully explain the discrepancy.
I've taken a German registered vehicle to Morocco and Turkey and had problems because the vehicle is ours, but because of EU regulations, is registered and insured by a company. Luckily they accepted a receipt on a company letterhead even though it wasn't really a legal document.
Same at the Mexican border with a motorhome owned by our Company where we had to provide a permission letter signed by the company director (me) giving the driver (me) permission to cross the border.
In your case, you could get a PODER drawn up in Spain so the leagle owner gives you permission to drive the vehicle, and it might be accepted at the port of entry and at land borders, but given the large increase in possible complications this introduces, I would be looking for a better way to achieve it.
BTW you might first check with potential shippers back in Spain, because they might not allow it anyway. If they have no problems, then I guess you have jumped the first hurdle
Main problem is that all countries have rules, but the one principal rule is that the officer standing on the other side of the counter has near absolute discretion as to how the rules are applied in a particular case. If he has suspicions about the authenticity of a document he can make things almost impossible for you.
BTW assume you have the correct license to ride motorcycles.
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thanks tony
yes! at list the correct license i do have
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Shalom Matan
I had the same question like yours. I live in Switzerland and own my bike,but want to send 2 bikes to Chile, both registered on my name. One for me and one for my Israeli friend who is my traveling partner.
The answer that i got from the German shiping company is that a Notary document has to be filled in Spanish(easy in your case..) with my friends passport copie and the bikes details. Not so complicated.
Hope it helps
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Shalom Matan
I had the same question like yours. I live in Switzerland and own my bike,but want to send 2 bikes to Chile, both registered on my name. One for me and one for my Israeli friend who is my traveling partner.
The answer that i got from the German shiping company is that a Notary document has to be filled in Spanish(easy in your case..) with my friends passport copie and the bikes details. Not so complicated.
Hope it helps
Yom tov
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shalom vistar!
i got the same answer from different people so i believe it is possible and this is the way.
what was the offer you got from the shipping company?
good day
matan
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Hi all
In what to Argentina correspond at least and I guess could be like this in others countries too:
As I told Matan by email and in other post before and others have says, you will need one AWB (transport document) per bike and in each name than needs to match with registration/title, (no company’s names or other person) to get a temporal importation for the bike.
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...413#post508939
Now, if a bike is not registered in the name of the rider you will need a Power of Attorney from the registered owner to allow him to get a temporal import permit in his name and be able to ride the bike. Legally talking, this POA has to be a one made in the country where the bike is registered translated to Spanish with an “Apostille” (usually made at consulates, embassies, maybe a court of law or international affairs offices). This at first entry or exit in Argentina by port or airport is IMPERATIVE. At border crossings should too but in fact shows other reality.
“The Apostille convention or the Apostille treaty is an international treaty drafted by the Hague Conference on Private International Law. It specifies the modalities through which a document issued in one of the signatory countries can be certified for legal purposes in all the other signatory states. Such a certification is called an apostille (French: certification). It is an international certification comparable to a notarisation in domestic law.”
You can find more information about the apostille in the following links: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostille_convention
I think that if there is time and is possible always is better to change ownership to the right own name at your side before to send a bike.
I strongly recommends that if there isn’t possible to have papers in the right name to make this “apostille” with time enough to be checked by someone who understand how customs works in other countries and not only by people who want to make business sending a bike that will have maybe many problems to be released.
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shalom vistar!
i got the same answer from different people so i believe it is possible and this is the way.
what was the offer you got from the shipping company?
good day
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Ahlan Matan,
The offer i got for shipping by sea inc. crate , from Hamburg to Chile ,
Was 2,200 € for return trip. The crate will be stored for us in Chile untill the shipping back. The company is "in-time". Check their website : Intime Motorradtransporte weltweit - Transporte national und international
Mr. Olaf Kleinknecht is very helpful and answers very fast to any question you may have.
Javier mentioned apostille . I will definitely need that since my Notary documents will be in German and i travel to a spanish speaking continent, but you are buying a bike in Spain, any Notary document is already in Spanish, so I don't see the point in your case
Keep on updating with your progress
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Javier mentioned apostille . I will definitely need that since my Notary documents will be in German and i travel to a spanish speaking continent, but you are buying a bike in Spain, any Notary document is already in Spanish, so I don't see the point in your case
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Vistar
You are wrong, the “Apostille” is the international certification of the PoA, not of the translation. Even on a one in Spanish will be necessary.
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Ok. I understand now. Thank you Javier .
Hope to meet you in person in 2016.
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