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• NEVER, EVER, DRIVE AT NIGHT – there are stray cattle, donkeys, bicycles with no lights, cars and trucks with no lights, and so on…. Bicycles are not required to have lights, so can be invisible, especially when other lighted vehicles are on the road.
• Give the vehicle a full check before you leave - tyres, lights, fluids levels, papers, jack etc.. Then check tyres visually every day and pressures weekly (there are lots of sharp objects on the streets) and check fluid levels daily.
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Is this specific for Colombia ?

There is a whatsapp group for ADV riders in Colombia.
Sharing info about routes and places to stay.
No discussions about danger. Accept normal common sense.

I have spent many afternoons in/at plazas in small towns.
And I have always felt very relaxed.
I have only met nice, friendly and helpful people.
People are siting outside.
Drinking coffee. Watching other people and talking.
But that are small towns, remote.
Not big cities in the middle of the nights
(But to be drunk at 3 AM in or around bars in a large city is not recommended for any country).
But I have only been there together with these friendly people.
Not reading US information...

Dangerous chess play in Tulua

Normal life in a plaza

My habitation

Hard to overtake o
Yes, traffic is dangerous. SO keep out of main roads

Dangerous coffee stop.
Might get stuck there

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always park your vehicle in designated parking when going to a mall or a private lot on the streets. just remember if the parking spot looks bad then it probably is

I agree.
But is this not common sense for most of the world?
Not Colombia specific.

Buenas, Erik! I'd be interested in joining this WhatsApp group if you are able to share a link? Thanks in advance!

Both are relevant for many parts of the world. The comment on bicycle lights is specifically included because the law changed and they're n longer required to have lights - they gave up trying, few bikes had lights anyway.

The comment on tyres is included because iy experience is that there's more chance of a puncture in South America than in many other areas (in our case, over 240,000 km (more or less similar km driven in each continent, we've had no punctures in our vehicles in Africa and Eurasia, one in Australia, two in Canada, but five in South America. The difference in my view is the debris on the roads, so this is why I mention it.

You may have guessed that I keep a "standard" advice note to use - or more accurately several of these. This one is specific to Colombia but fairly obviously lots of advice is valid throughout Latin America and some is valid everywhere.

Seems to me there’s no need to pick at any advice given here, at least on the basis of something being universally applicable.

And just to stir the pot, I’ve certainly driven motorcycles at night many times, including in South America, Europe, Africa and Asia. It’s not wise, of course, but sometimes things work out that way. And I’ve parked on the street with and without keeping a close eye, not to mention used dodgy ATMs, in all those places. I do take precautions, and I try not to make a habit of acting foolishly, but those blanket prohibitions sometimes fall to practical considerations.

Yes you're absolutely right - a blanket prohibition is not the best approach - situational awareness and thinking through the risk is.

To clarify the advice, we always plan not to drive at night, although do so in cities and on certain routes which we know well. We recognise that things don't always go to plan and so if/when we find that we're going to be driving at night if we continue to our intended destination we then do a simple risk assessment and decide a plan. For example in Australia the only significant risk is a kangaroo strike, and we have on occasion managed the risk by keeping below 60-70 km/h, less if in dense bush. On one occasion we chose to stop earlier than planned.

I prefer to offer the advice not to drive or ride at night as a general rule, which can be broken with careful consideration.

I live in Colombia with my wife (she's Colombian) and feel like I can give a fairly good security briefing.

General rules to stay safe in Colombia:

In general the average Colombian criminal in a big city is pretty lazy and cautious. It is similar to the way a lion in Africa usually goes after the weakest animal, or most susceptible animal. They want an easy pay day with minimal risk. Almost all the robberies happen to people who are walking at night in dimly lit areas with minimal people around. Someone joked that they are not afraid of Colombian criminals because they had never run into a Colombian who knew how to fight. In general Colombians are pretty skinny and do not weigh a lot. If they are going to mug someone and beat them up it is probably going to be someone who is drunk and coming out of the bar.

It is a good idea to carry a dumby wallet here. Don't keep all of your important stuff in one location. If you have 2 debit cards, make sure that the thieves only get 1 card. Same thing with identification.

If I have to walk at night here for 10 minutes or more, I like to be carrying a bottle in my hand. I usually drink the and than keep carrying the bottle with me in my hand until I get there. The problem with carrying weapons is that they can potentially be used against you. I would much rather have someone use a bottle against me than a knife.

My take on carrying a bottle is you are 10 times less likely to be approached by a potential criminal if it looks like robbing you could be risky. None of these guys want to go back to Colombian jail.

A. Big Cities

1. Try to avoid long walks at night. Didi and Uber are incredibly inexpensive and safe here.

2. If you are going to walk in a city at night, only walk in well lit areas with lots of normal looking Colombians (not homeless people). Walking on streets that have lots of open business's is a good idea.

3. Want to stress the importance on walking on "well lit streets at night in big cities in Colombia." It is my opinion that 95% of the robberies of tourists that happen here are a result of a 2 man moto team silently sneaking up on tourists from behind in dimly lit areas.

3 a. Walking through neighborhoods at night that have a lot of normal looking Colombians socializing on the sidewalks outside, walking dogs, parties is a good way to stay safe.

4. Do not go to the "city center" aka "centro" at night. Pretty much all the major Colombian cities have dangerous city centers. Lots of drugs, criminals, and homeless people there.

5. Bogota is very sketchy at night. General rule of thumb is you are safe walking at night in the East part of Bogota. From Chapinero walking North you are safe if it is Carrera 13 or East of there. If you are going to walk there at night I recommend walking on Carrera 7 at night, because there is a good police presence there. Again, Didi and Uber's are inexpensive so I highly recommend not walking at night.

Recommend not trying to use the Trans Milenio public red busses in Bogota, because there are a lot of pickpockets in those stations and buses. It is a horrible public transportation system.

6. Medellin: One of the safer large cities in Colombia. Has one of the best metro train systems in South America. The metro train is very safe in Medellin. Unfortunately, there has been a large uptick in crime against tourists in Medellin in the last 2 years. I have seen way more police activity in the Laurelles area here, than I ever saw in the past. I saw the police at an intersection in Laurelles pull to criminals off their motorcycle and arrest them. On Dec 24th my wife and I got robbed at 8 pm by a 2 man moto team about a block away from a police station in Laurelles.

Poblado is the popular area for international tourists in Medellin. There has always been crime against tourists in Poblado, but there has been a huge uptick in crime there in the last 2 years. It is not a good area to walk around in at night. Better to take Didi's and Uber.

Dangerous metro stations in Medellin at night: Niquia, Bello, Madera, Acevedo, Universidad, Hospital, Prado, San Antonio, Parque Berrio, Cisernos, Alpujarra, Exposiciones, Industriales, Poblado, Aguacatala.

That is a lot of stations so here are the highly dangerous ones in my opinion at night: Parque Berrio, San Antonio, Cisernos, Alpujarra, Exposiciones, Prado, Hospital, Universidad.


Cali: Never visited before, but I hear it is a sketchy city to walk around in at night.

Cartagena: Haven't been there since 2008, but it was a tail of two cities from what I remember. Poor side, rich side, lots of prostitutes walking the streets. Not too safe to be walking at night. Haven't been back, because I was not impressed my the initial visit.

Turbo: Do not go there. It is a port of entry for drugs into Colombia.

Manizales, Pereira: Recommend visiting these two cities for an extended time. Safe, walkable, better examples of normal Colombian life.

Good small towns to visit: Jardin and Jerico.


btw: The Colombian cities close to the border of Venezuela are not very safe. I recommend staying away from that area.

Note: If you ask the locals in Colombia if they have every been robbed before, most of them will tell you that they have. It is a somewhat culturally normal thing if you live in a large city in Colombia. There is a lot of crime in the big cities and a lot of poverty and desperate people. The potential thief can possibly earn 20 times more in 1 night than what they could make in a month of honest work here.

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Good summary!

A couple of points. All of the cities have areas which are generally fine - where we live in Bogotá we walk around at night with no concern.

There are also areas to which we would not go - in Bogotá, in Medellín, in Cali, etc. Rather than think of one city as safer than another I think it's more about distinguishing areas within the cities.

I must say that I feel less secure in central Cali at night than I do at home, however once again it's locally variable.

The walled city in Cartagena is one of the safest places in Colombia,Once outside the walls, things require more SA, and there are areas which I would avoid in broad daylight.