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Planning a trip to Argentina, Chile and Brazil

Hello everyone,
We are starting to plan our 3 months honeymoon motorcycles trip in south america. We would appreciate your thoughts and advice. we are thinking on starting our trip in Argentina, landing in BA. We will be riding on one bike. Where would be a good place to purchase or rent a bike? The places we are interested in are Patagonia, Carratera, Bariloche, maybe Iguassu . we would appreciate your help in planning a route.
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don't start in Argentina

It is my understanding you will not be able to take a bike out of Argentina. Sounds crazy, but its what I have seen posted here on the HUBB.

Do some reading here about the step to buy a bike in Chile. How is your spanish?

Dunno about the steps the purchase and leave Brazil.

There is a guy in Peru that will paper and sell you a 250cc Chinese bike at a great price.

Spend some time reading the forum for details on Peru and other places...
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It is my understanding you will not be able to take a bike out of Argentina. Sounds crazy, but its what I have seen posted here on the HUBB.

Do some reading here about the step to buy a bike in Chile. How is your spanish?

Dunno about the steps the purchase and leave Brazil.

There is a guy in Peru that will paper and sell you a 250cc Chinese bike at a great price.

Spend some time reading the forum for details on Peru and other places...

Hi Peter
thank you for this information. i will definitely check it out.
this is the first time i hear about problem to take a bike our of Argentina.
do you mean a rented bike, or an Argentinian plates? its sound unreasonable that it want be allowed for foreign plates (if i will buy from a traveler for example)
unfortunately i don't speak Spanish.
we are going to be 2 on the motorcycle so i am looking for something bigger than 250cc let say 600+. i would prefer a GS1200 but i belive a GS650/800 or vsrom would do the job... right now we know we want to get to Carretera Austral,Patagonia aria and down to Torres del Paine and we are trying to figure out the time it will take us...
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Shalom Matan & Noam

Yoni was already asking me (I guess) about your trip. All what you ask is somewhere here in the HUBB, your best recourse if you use well the search function.

A very short resume:

-Rent a bike for 3 months will go to a big sum of money, the average price goes to an around $ 100/150 per day. Make the maths…

-Buy (and register it in your name) and later sell, a local bike will take a lot of your planned time. In Argentina you aren’t allowed to take it out of the country for the first year in your name. Other countries like Chile you have more paperwork and to wait for it to be ready several weeks I heard. Add to all of this that the bike’s prices in Argentina and also other countries around are very expensive. Big bikes like you pretend even worst.

-Other traveller’s bike has the issue of the nontransferable original papers and/or the Temporal Importation. Also here the short time for travel works against your plans and for solve it (if possible) will take time.

All is here disperse on the site, be careful because people tends to tell the stories only when they have a happy end. And some fill ashamed when they have a bad experience.

Sorry if I don’t have a personal recommendation in your case, usually I use to advice in behalf to bring your own bike but for just 3 months some people don’t see it like economically worthy.

Saludos from cold Buenos Aires!!!
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Dear javier
thank you for yore answers
it helps a lot.
what about if i export a bike to Argentina and later on a friend will take it for his traveling? (he has unlimited time) is it necessary that the bike will be on the rider name or is it enough to have papers of the bike only? by the way Noam has an Argentinian ID does that help?
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Hi Matan,

I don`t know, how it works from Israel to Southamerica, but: Last year I shipped some bikes for a 6-week-vacation from Germany to Chile (and back) and this was cheaper than renting. And forget about shipping to Argentina: I may take much time, money and spanish skills to get it out of the customs. Best way is shipping to Chile/Valparaiso. When the bike is on the continent, border crossings are a breeze.

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Dear javier...
what about if i export a bike to Argentina and later on a friend will take it for his traveling? (he has unlimited time) is it necessary that the bike will be on the rider name or is it enough to have papers of the bike only? by the way Noam has an Argentinian ID does that help?...
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Legally talking to bring a bike into Argentina for tourism purposes the bike has to be registered on rider’s name and you will have to bring original Tittle or Registration for prove it, International Driving Licence and local insurance also will be require. Ones in Argentina the Temporal Import isn’t legally transferable and your friend will need papers in his name for bring it in again or for a future shipment out at finish…
Argentinean ID will not help at customs, as locals we have more restrictions for bring a foreigner vehicle than a normal tourist. Of course if she speaks “castellano argento” that will help a lot in everywhere but there isn’t any need to show a local ID…
When at border crossings all papers are clear and in your name, all are easier and problems free.


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...but: Last year I shipped some bikes for a 6-week-vacation from Germany to Chile (and back) and this was cheaper than renting. And forget about shipping to Argentina: I may take much time, money and spanish skills to get it out of the customs. Best way is shipping to Chile/Valparaiso. When the bike is on the continent, border crossings are a breeze.
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How you know that, if your experience was shipping not to Buenos Aires and some bikes (I presume a container) and not only a one single bike to Argentina?
We have several years receiving and sending few hundreds (or maybe not few, maybe many) bikes and other overland vehicles at Buenos Aires, times to release a bike here if comes by plane is just one working day, and few days if comes by sea if there isn’t delays (we use to recommends for bikes always for do it by plane).
Money and Spanish skills are not a lot different than in other South America places for what “I have heard”. Or there in Chile they make the logistics for free and/or they speak other language different than Spanish??? “I have heard, and read” many horror stories from Chile too, as well as from Uruguay, Brazil, Peru, Ecuador and on, and on…
You always can do customs by yourself, here or I guess in Chile or other places too or you can contract someone local, this is your prerogative. Talk about what you don’t know, maybe not.

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