Amazing. I don´t understand a single word of what the TO asks.

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I will add one small fact to this discussion:
If you get caught in the US with expired plates, it will amount to a small fine and a short time period for you to get it taken care of. However if you falsify documents as you've said, and get caught, you will discover just how bullshit our legal system can be.
As a fellow traveler, I recommend against it.

Sorry you don't understand, everyone else does so I am happy with that.

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I couldn't agree more, I am wanting to do it right but the system has made it so difficult for what should be an easy transaction.

We haven't falsified anything to date and don't want to however if we get cornered to the point we are heavily disadvantaged for trying to do it right then a man can be pushed over the edge.

1st priority is rego, second is ......

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Ok, now I see. It all makes perfect sense if you tried to register the bike in Maricopa County, where emissions tests are required every year. Next time (<-- joke), do it in Flagstaff or any other small town or city. You'll find renewal quite effortless.

The apostille is generally necessary if you want a Latin American notarization to be valid in the USA. Same will likely be true if you want to register the bike in some other country which is a signatory to the apostille agreements, e.g., New Zealand unless you're personally present. Same if you want to cross borders using a notarized bill of sale from another country. Etc. On the other hand, I've never done this myself, so take it as an educated guess.

An alternative for your purposes is to have documents notarized at a US consulate or embassy--that's what people normally do if they're trying to draw up documents which will be accepted as valid in the States, e.g., sell a house or establish a will. No personal experience with this either, but it's done.

Good luck.

Mark

Two questions that need to be answered :

1.Will Arizona renew registration for a vehicle/motorcycle if there is no prof of insurance on file at DMV or if the insurance on file has expired....???

2. Once a motorcycle is officially de-insured will the state of Arizona permit registration renewal?


All Arizona insurance companies are required by law to report to
DMV Division of Motor Vehicle when the Arizona State minimum insurance has expired for each vehicle/moto they insure.

Aside from the emissions issue not having Arizona insurance, and being de-insured , could prevent renewal. I just don't know.

As I posted - my last post - it might be possible to purchase motorcycle insurance that meets the Arizona State minimum requirement, then you could have your mate present the prof of insurance to the DMV.

- I have no clue on how to handle the emission issue - if there is one.

I am aware that others who have attempted absentee title transfers (motorcycle not present) have stumbled upon the emission/inspection issue in all but one or two States of the United States. Without the required vehicle inspectionand/or VIN verification, in all but one or two of the States, the title transfer was blocked every time.

I have tried my best to describe this stumbling block on several Hubb threads.

Have you tried renewing on the web site I provided last post?
Have you determined you really need an emission test by checking the other web site I posted?

If the bike is de-insured, you could have your mate ask if the registration can be renewed during the de-insured period, or must renewal wait until the bike is once again legally insured in the State of Arizona?

With the answers to these questions you might be able to solve your renewal problem.

Ride hard, Ride Free and be true to yourself....

xfiltrate

1 & 2 we don't know this and now we actually don't exist on the system despite having valid registration until the 31st??

Yes we did try, three times, always comes up with "Record Not Found" ..., this really is a worry as we have valid rego until the 31st

Should I email them now with our issue or is that throwing petrol on a fire, I just don't want to lose our rego and be in no mans land complete through no fault of our own?

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Contacted them again with a very polite email asking if they can help cos we don't exist on the system after they told us to de insure and put our request for 2 years rego with our situation etc.

This is now recorded and I have the ADOT auto response and all showing todays date so at least we can now proof beyond doubt we have been trying to get it sorted.

Talk about a mission.

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Brilliant, if you cannot do what is right then try to do what is right!

Good work on your part to document attempts.

I am willing to testify that you have tried to do
what is right, we will be in Arizona in May - and have a ranch in Flagstaff, Arizona where no emissions test is required - if you have not sorted it
before than I am more than willing to assist you in registering at DMV Flagstaff. Will you be passing through Arizona?

Keep us posted . Happy New Year

xfiltrate and rosa del desierto

xfiltrate et all, we did it, a few courteous emails and happy new years etc they reinstated us on the system as a deinsured vehicle so we are not allowed to ride it in AZ ... no prob there.

We had to pay an $8.00 penalty for trying to do the right thing (WTF) but hey we are now 100% legal again thus if something should go wrong that is one less thing to worry about.

Patience pays (but it was trying) ((and I am surprised how difficult "the system" was to be honest))

Anyway, great news and happy.

Cheers Andi

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