Heya Hubbers

First off Merry Christmas to all you homeless buggas

Where ever you are we hope yo are enjoying the best of it, we are in Cajamarca Peru.

So, my question, Mayas rego runs out on the 31st Dec 2013 .. yeah next week.

We have been trying to deal with the bullshit bureaucratic monster called the USA with no luck, they want us to pay a $70 fine and all sorts of crap.

My question is, are all the countries in South America tied to the USA digitally so will the know if we don't have rego.

We had to get a registration power of attorney page notarized in Chachapoyas which we did but now they won't accept it.

So we now have a beautiful piece of paper signed and notarized with the US system written on it ... and a nice stamp etc .... one is thinking if it was signed ...bla bla bla.

So my burning question is will any off South American guy know if we don't have the real mcoy ... i.e. just win it from here to NZ

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Cheers Andi & Ellen .... https://twomotokiwis.blogspot.com/ Two Moto Kiwis Alaska - Argentina - April 2012 -> Somewhere

Not sure I understand what you're asking. For registration purposes "the bullshit bureaucratic monster called the USA" is utterly irrelevant. What state? Almost any state which allowed you to legally register in the first place has some provision for legally renewing by mail. So what's your problem?

FWIW, no South American country is going to have the means to easily check the validity of your registration. However, they can read an expiration date as easily as you can. And as discussed to the point of absurdity on many other threads, photocopies with shopped-in dates usually pass muster…until they don't.

Hope that's helpful.

Mark

AZ is the state ..."the bullshit bureaucratic monster called the USA" can't believe I was that polite ...must be Christmas, I am going soft.

Just wonna pay them money to "legally" continue our rego, because my friend in AZ went to do it for us they said we needed a Power Of Attorney assigned to him, we duly did this then they refused that and have locked our registration down and nothing can be done online or in person ...WTF you're kidding we only wonna pay some ****ing money!!!!

Hope the explains "t b b m c t USA"

Ok, think we are gonna use our notarized paperwork and fudge the dates on our other papers, forced to do it illegally after trying our hardest to do it legally ... the system ... WOH HOH go USA.

Thanks for your help Mark, rant over, rum on ... Merry Christmas mate

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Cheers Andi & Ellen .... https://twomotokiwis.blogspot.com/ Two Moto Kiwis Alaska - Argentina - April 2012 -> Somewhere

You might as well get your rants right. That's the state of Arizona. The USA government has nothing to do with it. Not the same by any stretch. For example, the two are always suing each other. On the other hand, no need for you to learn the difference if you're content to be railing at the wrong entity.

Best bet would have been to have him submit the form by mail. I did that for years on my Arizona registration when I'd long since moved elsewhere. It's easy…unless you've attracted attention and/or peeved someone, as you apparently have now done.

Good luck with your documentation. Sometimes cutting a few corners is the only practical alternative. Fortunately, most Latin American officials understand that perfectly.

Bottoms up!

Mark

Hello Two Moto Kiwis,

it is difficult to understand your post, and your problem.

Mark is right about this, as he is most of the time here on the forum. I would even say, no country outside where you registered your bike has the means to check the validity of your rego.

You are in Peru, relax, this is just a date on a paper. I even took a black marker to erase dates on papers, not only once.

I also understand that you are complaining about the US rego system, because this does not give you the way to do things the legal/correct way. Anyway, the US has become a Third World Country in many ways, not only in the bureaucratic system. Mark, if you want to argue about this, pls send me a pm.

You are traveling the world, learn about it as you go along ... not everything is like you have been told in school.

Saludos de Samaipata Bolivia
mika

We did what they asked us to do then that was it so yeah not sure how we managed to upset them.

Mika has it right, USA for banking (noting Well Fugwitzs) and AZ now for rego is seriously backward for simple transactions that can't be done on behalf of some to GIVE them money.

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Cheers Andi & Ellen .... https://twomotokiwis.blogspot.com/ Two Moto Kiwis Alaska - Argentina - April 2012 -> Somewhere

I'm not sure I quite understand the problem. Let me see if I can paraphrase.

One of your bikes is registered in the state of Arizona and the registration expires on December 31. When your friend in Arizona went to reregister the bike, he was told that he couldn't do it without power of attorney from you. So you did that from your current location, but they wouldn't accept the document back in Arizona.

Is that about it? What's the $70 for? Is that in addition to the annual registration fee?

I'm not at all familiar with Arizona, but it seems like you should be able to find someone to talk to who can help you. Some states do registration by county (like the state where I live) and others do it by the whole state. If Arizona is of the latter (and I seem to think it is), it might be possible to simply go to a different motor vehicle office, preferably in a small town. They tend to be a little more helpful there, and not so bogged down with so much work.

I'd say it's worth going into another motor vehicle office (or two). For many years I had my vehicle registered in one state and I resided in another. Nobody ever said anything about it, until one police officer ticketed me for having an invalid address on my registration. Perhaps your Arizona contact just happened to be talking to the one jerk in the office who wants to make things difficult. Find someone helpful who will understand the situation.

On the other hand, nobody in any other country is going to bother to do any sort of check to make sure your registration is current other than maybe look at the date on your document.

Jamie