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Brazil DOES issue TVIPs -- for normal vehicles anyway. They stopped doing it when the world cup was on because hundreds of vehicles were coming in from other countries. They came in, watched the football, toured around a bit and drove back home. 99.9% did anyway.

In February this year they started issuing them again at least at some main border posts although not immediately at all the small border crossings.

We crossed in May from Peru on the Interoceanic highway and that crossing was still not issuing TIPs so I have taken a bit of a chance and left our camper in Brasilia for about a year. Friends there, many in fairly high places, assure me there are no major sanctions involved, but nothing is guaranteed. Officially it is quite clear that even when they were not issuing paper TIPs, people were still obliged to follow the letter of the law and be out of Brazil with their vehicle within 90 days of entry. Bit like USA. No TIPs but if you overstay and get unlucky, you will be in big trouble.
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In February this year they started issuing them again at least at some main border posts although not immediately at all the small border crossings.
Good to know, thank you for telling us. But as I remember it was long before the stupid soccer cup that they stoped issuing TIPs to foreign travelers.

So, this means Brazil is not the option to leave your bike for as long as you want anymore without any problems leaving. But would be good to get this confirmed from HU member Rod in Foz.

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Yes, they kept the no-TIP deal going for way after the world cup and everyone was thinking they would keep it in place for the Olympics so it was a surprise when they started issuing them again.
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Many Brazilians go shopping from Foz do Iguazu in Brazil to Cuidad del Este in Paraguay and return home when they've bought whatever without visiting immigration or customs on either side of the bridge.

In late 2015 I did this border crossing. My bike never had a TIP when it entered Brazil, so on the way out I only went to Brazil immigration to stamp myself out. There may have been a customs office, but I didn't see it.

On the Paraguayan side I did immigration and had to seek out customs to get their TIP (up on the hill on the right above the main crossing point). The customs man on the main road initially wanted to just send me on my way without doing a TIP.
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Many Brazilians go shopping from Foz do Iguazu in Brazil to Cuidad del Este in Paraguay and return home when they've bought whatever without visiting immigration or customs on either side of the bridge.

In late 2015 I did this border crossing. My bike never had a TIP when it entered Brazil, so on the way out I only went to Brazil immigration to stamp myself out. There may have been a customs office, but I didn't see it.

On the Paraguayan side I did immigration and had to seek out customs to get their TIP (up on the hill on the right above the main crossing point). The customs man on the main road initially wanted to just send me on my way without doing a TIP.
Chris, the question is not about brasileros or paraguayos, its about foreign NON MERCOSUR /Mercosul registered vehicles.
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Chris, the question is not about brasileros or paraguayos, its about foreign NON MERCOSUR /Mercosul registered vehicles.
I was riding a foreign NON MERCOSUR /Mercosul registered vehicle. I had a non Brazilian/ non Paraguayan passport. At the time anyone would have been able to leave Brasil without doing any vehicle exit paperwork.

I could bother rereading the rest of this thread (it was from a long time ago), but being on my cell phone it's too much of a pita.

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I was riding a foreign NON MERCOSUR /Mercosul registered vehicle. I had a non Brazilian/ non Paraguayan passport. At the time anyone would have been able to leave Brasil without doing any vehicle exit paperwork.

I could bother rereading the rest of this thread (it was from a long time ago), but being on my cell phone it's too much of a pita.

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99.9% of the vehicles crossing at Iguaçu are Mercosur/l, so they dont bother checking the cars there since its the normal daily shopping run of the locals.
I also had to go into the office on the braz side coming from Argentina to get my stamp.
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Officially it is quite clear that even when they were not issuing paper TIPs, people were still obliged to follow the letter of the law and be out of Brazil with their vehicle within 90 days of entry. Bit like USA. No TIPs but if you overstay and get unlucky, you will be in big trouble.
Tony Lee is posting the best advice.

In my experience, when leaving Brazil for Uruguay, I had to ask around for the National Police office where I surrendered my TVIP. They took the papers, but it was obvious they weren't used to taking the paper work. I suspect the papers floated around the office and were eventually thrown out. Maybe. I'll never know. Brazil is a funny place. High importation taxes on consumer products, then they seem to turn a blind eye towards motorcycles rolling over the borders. Go figure.

Do not try this in Peru. I know a guy who over stayed his TVIP by one day. ONE DAY! Aduana confiscated his bike, bye-bye bike. He hired a lawyer and hung around Puno for a couple weeks before packing it in. I love Peru and that is why I am in the process of buying a bike there. Peru will be my home away from home and storage for the next few years.
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