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Given the blood soaked recent (last 100 years) history of Europe I think there is a very strong case for owning weapons despite the recent brief bout of tranquility.
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I very much doubt a shot gun, a can of MACE and a .32 pistol would have much positive effect on a Nazi/Soviet/Napoleonic army. Same goes for bands or Colombian drug growers, African rebels etc. Serious men with serious guns will do serious damage if you start a shooting war. Blow their minds with paperwork or come across as just another mindless bumpkin wandering the countryside and they soon get bored with you or simply want to talk.
I was in Spain during one of the ETA campaigns. I was lost and the only person left at a checkpoint was a squadie with a .50 cal Browning, covering the traffic in the search area. A friendly Ola and request for directions in really bad Spanish got me a simple and friendly response and a reccomendation for a cracking hotel. The lad might have worked for one of Franco's generals, but he really didn't care about English idiots and was happy to talk to someone he didn't have to salute. Anyone sat in that checkpoint clutching their pistol and trying not to look shifty was in way more trouble.
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I very much doubt a shot gun, a can of MACE and a .32 pistol would have much positive effect on a Nazi/Soviet/Napoleonic army.
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Thanks for the tip.
This is why I have a 50 bmg, fn-fal, HK91, etc. in my safe. Many of my friends legally own 20mm anti-tank guns (solothurns) and even howitzers.
I had the pleasure of experiencing some urban riots and find a Fn-Fal quite adequate for such problems.
The original game plan for America was a citizen militia with equal access to every horrible weapon of war possesed by the government. No standing army to go on foreign adventures or for domestic repression.
I still think this a good idea.
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[QUOTE=Laser Jock;190941
The original game plan for America was a citizen militia with equal access to every horrible weapon of war possesed by the government. No standing army to go on foreign adventures or for domestic repression.
I still think this a good idea.[/QUOTE]
Hasn't worked since Vietnam, has it?
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Hasn't worked since Vietnam, has it?
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Hasnt worked long before that since the US civil war was not legal for USA citizens to have gatling guns.
But then most people dont know the USA was not supost to have any stanind army only state ran militias. Dint work to well so the USA did away with them. Then WW1 came up the USA was not to send troops in to war that did not thretin the USA soil but we did. Then WW2 and the USA sent munishens and guns to the UK in violation of laws and treats hoping to provok Germany to sink a passenger ship they did and in we go again. All of this had people up in arms in the USA. So now we have a people around the world demanding the USA do something about any and all spats the world has. Vietnam and the war now is gust extension of that foreign policy made way back then. One day soon the USA will be surprised on the world stage and the world have to deal with China or Inda or the EU or who ever wonder, what it will look like.
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Warthog said :
" Sporting purposes: great fun and I'd love to have a go. Cardboard for me not flesh and bone...
Whether people carry a gun at home or abroad, I sincerely hope they never have reason to consider using it... "
Good sentiments there mate , I wholeheartedly agree .
Cardboard, clays and game for the cooking pot .
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You're absolutely right. Spur of the moment and all that. Apologies due - message deleted.
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You're absolutely right. Spur of the moment and all that. Apologies due - message deleted.
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Hey Teflon
Why you apologize?, I mean I’m with you also reading here all this S…. without understand what a F…. some are talking…..
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Hey Teflon
Why you apologize?, I mean I’m with you also reading here all this S…. without understand what a F…. some are talking…..
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Thanks Javkap, though I was still going to delete it even before I read your post. Good thing I didn't have a gun, eh? Can't delete a bullet.
I'm gonna move on from this thread. Bad karma.
Saludos.
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