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This is just normal for Honduras do not let it bother you!!
I crossed twice last year like scrabble biker only in reverse of her route.
Went through 5 check points and never stopped once, At El Amatillo i hired a helper and agreed on $5.00 before hand, the crossing took 1 hour. I liked the interaction with the helper and treated him with respect and he treated me fine. Unlike other moto travellers who get all wound up about the helpers I feel they are real people, you just have to pick the one you like, and you need to speak a little Spanish.
The sit down protest is also my way of dealing with bogus tickets and has worked 90% of the time in all of Latin America. I do not understand spending $140.00 at a border crossing that should only be $35.00 dont let it happen.
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This is just normal for Honduras do not let it bother you!!
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The corrupt bureaucracy problem is especially bad in Honduras, and an order of magnitude worse on the short stretch of Panamerican between El Salvador and Nicaragua.
Dealing with the border crossing is different than dealing with the cops pulling you over:
At the border, a little Spanish goes a long ways as does knowing what to expect. When the "helper" tries to scam you, give them some This Is Not Acceptable attitude - friendly but firm.
When getting pulled over, you can freely speak no spanish whatsoever. When they start harassing you, laugh and joke and just say ok give me a ticket. Be prepared to sit it out. In less than 10 minutes you'll be on your way. If you appear scared or actually consider paying the mortida it *will* take longer.
It's a shame that law enforcement in these countries is a joke, but if you actually treat it like a joke you'll get through just fine. Corrupt cops smell fear and use it to their advantage, but it's not personal. Just don't make it worth their time.
BTW the other hotspot for corrupt cops is the long stretch of the Panamerican through Panama.
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We crossed over with 2 bikes mid November and we did the El Salvador/Honduras/Nicaragua borders in a day. I didn't use helpers and knew that the fee was $35 and that's what I paid. Also went thru' about 8 checkpoints on the short stretch out; however was pulled over 3 times and asked for paperwork twice. Each time, I would get off the bike, take helmet and gloves off and always be patient, smile and didn't speak any Spanish to them. They got the hint that I was going to wait them out and let us go.
Patience is the name of the game with them.
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Ok my crash course in Spanish is crashing. So I will focus on certain areas, directions, and border crossings. Any help on what I should be able to understand or converse about at the borders. Sounds stupid I know...but any help would be great.
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Ok my crash course in Spanish is crashing. So I will focus on certain areas, directions, and border crossings. Any help on what I should be able to understand or converse about at the borders. Sounds stupid I know...but any help would be great.
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Well if you want to avoid helpers a simple 'no, gracias' should work fine! 'Me puede dar una factura por favor' would be a good one, anything you buy should have a receipt, if it doesn't then they are probably charging you for something you don't need.
Although I have never been to the Honduras here in South America they give receipts with absolutely everything.
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Much good solid advice here already. Just know what is required and stand your ground.
All central American borders run by the same set of steps which you should follow for a relatively smooth crossing without helpers . The Four Steps are 1MIGRACION - tourist card issue and passport stamps and inspection 2 TRANSITO inspection of your bike papers and issuing of a TVIP ,stamped into passport.
3 SEPA aka OIRSA or Fumigacion where they spray some malathion solution on your bike to kill bugs, not at every crossing. 4 ADUANA- final check of all your papers and passport stamps and then you are free to go if all is stamped and signed in the right spots.
Follow these steps in this order and you need no helpers.Pay only the fee that the official asks for and demand and keep a receipt for each payment.Retain all papers and receipts in the same folder or envelope so that you can retrieve them easily at the next border crossing when leaving the country.
, As you finish one step just ask the official to point you to the wicket where the following step is done.
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I just came through Honduras last week. ABSOLUTELY no problems what so ever. Whenever I was stopped by Police (which was only a few times) they either saluted me or shook my hand. All they wanted was to see that I had the correct papers. NO hint of bribery at all.
WHY? Well I crossed from Guatemala at Copan and left Honduras at El Pariso. In other words NOT ON THE PAN AMERICANA.
It seems that lots of people have trouble with Honduras and do there best to avoid it and thus take the shortest route. BUT this leads to problems as this is exactly where the trouble is. Take your time to explore Honduras. Go to Copan and you will find Honduras to be much like any other central America place. The corrupt police/ border guards are ONLY on the pan americana.
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