Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > South America
South America Topics specific to South America only.
Photo by Lois Pryce, schoolkids in Algeria

25 years of HU Events


Destination ANYWHERE...
Adventure EVERYWHERE!




Photo of Lois Pryce, UK
and schoolkids in Algeria



Like Tree9Likes

 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Prev Previous Post   Next Post Next
  #10  
Old 22 Jan 2015
Peter Bodtke's Avatar
Gold Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Maplewood NJ USA
Posts: 594
yup

Quote:
Originally Posted by ridetheworld View Post
Peter, do you really think that people think like that? I'm very surprised you came away with that impression. I've been here 3 months, worked here, travelled and studied here - I've never encountered any apparent resentment myself for being obviously foreign nor the calculated spite or jealousy you spoke of. I don't think it's true at all that Bolivians would hold it against you for colonialism or the ravages of US drugs policy or WTO neo-liberalism. I don't think most people really care where you might be from and the ones that were cheaters, liars general scumbags were so for much the same reasons people cheat, lie or generally **** others over as they do in the states, or anywhere else. Maybe you were just projecting your own stuff there?
Its not clear to me if you are being sarcastic or not, but I'm thinking not. I am not sure what Bolivian are thinking or how they process history into moment to moment interaction. If some foreigners are cheaters, liars general scumbags, wouldn't you expect those on the receiving end to hold some resentment? Projecting? I don't think so. And no ill will from me. I salute the indigenous Bolivians people for taking political power.

You might want to read up a bit about President Evo Morales. If get a chance, watch the movie Cocalero (2007) which documents Morales' campaign to the presidency. Its available on Netflix. There is a segment filmed in Santa Cruz, where there are more people with European heritage. The hostility expressed by the old guard toward the indigenous reminded me of the racial tensions in US circa 1960's. Some will argue things haven't improve much, but I digress. There is clear evidence of hostility between the classes within Bolivia. That some hostility would pour over onto tourists, well, its not too surprising.

To be clear, I said, "...not all Bolivians like tourists." In my experience some do, some don't. If you spent months months in Bolivia and never felt even a drop of tension from any of the locals, then you are either blessed and very lucky or oblivious. Sorry, I don't mean to be harsh, its just inconceivable to me that you did not experience what many others have. You were never turned away from a gas station without your gut tell you they just didn't want to service you? It happened to me enough times to draw an intuition based conclusion. Why bother ranting on about this? To prepare travelers and suggest they be understanding. Lead with a smile and take what comes.

On the flip side, I experienced Bolivians that were friendly, helpful and very generous. Its an amazing country, raw, breath taking and changing radically on many levels. I look forward to returning there one day.
__________________
Peter B
2008/09 - NJ to Costa Rica and back to NJ
2012/13 - NJ to Northern Argentina, Jamaica, Cuba and back to NJ
2023 - Peru, Brazil, Paraguay, Argentina, Chile, Bolivia...back to Peru.

Blogs: Peter's Ride
Reply With Quote
 

Tags
bolivia, fuel, leaded fuel, r1200gsa


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Advice wanted for buying a bike in Bolivia ccrisfield South America 1 25 May 2016 17:59
Tales from the Saddle klous-1 Ride Tales 88 4 Feb 2016 20:30
Fuel Prices in Bolivia El Forko South America 20 12 Mar 2014 11:08
Bolivia - RHD ? fuel ?? security !!!‏ Phil Flanagan 4 wheel Overland Travel 2 7 Dec 2012 18:01
Bolivia - RHD ? fuel ?? security !!!‏ Phil Flanagan South America 1 7 Dec 2012 16:05

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

25 years of HU Events
Be sure to join us for this huge milestone!

ALL Dates subject to change.

2025 Confirmed Events:

Virginia: April 24-27
Queensland is back! May 2-5
Germany Summer: May 29-June 1
Ecuador June 13-15
Bulgaria Mini: June 27-29
CanWest: July 10-13
Switzerland: Aug 14-17
Romania: Aug 22-24
Austria: Sept. 11-14
California: September 18-21
France: September 19-21
Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes.
(ONLY US RESIDENTS and currently has a limit of 60 days.)

Ripcord Evacuation Insurance is available for ALL nationalities.


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Every book a diary
Every chapter a day
Every day a journey
Refreshingly honest and compelling tales: the hights and lows of a life on the road. Solo, unsupported, budget journeys of discovery.
Authentic, engaging and evocative travel memoirs, overland, around the world and through life.
All 8 books available from the author or as eBooks and audio books



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:22.