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On the VTV website you will find what they ask.

Thanks for all that information; very helpful.


Do you have a link for the VTV website?
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Whoa cowboy...

Hi, I am in agreement with javkap comments.

You might also double check your information about dual U S /Argentine citizenship. While Argentina might recognize dual citizenship, my research has indicated U S will not.

This may or may not be a problem for you. What we have, and it took three years of residence in Argentina and jumping through many financial and INTERPOL/police hoops are Argentina permanent foreign residents.

This is not a quick process, but I assure you it can be accomplished without an attorney or immigration assistance agents. I do not know what would be required to become a citizen of Argentina, but if it requires being available for military service, you may have a problem keeping your U S citizen. Once again I am not qualified to give you legal advice, but what I have learned from my own research is for U S citizens it is better to obtain permanent foreign residence status, which basically gives you all rights of an Argentine citizen than to go the dual citizen route. If you are Argentine - you might verify all with your embassy or consul before initiating applications for dual citizenship.

Javkap is probably a good resource for you as he is on top of TVIPs and importation issues.

My wife and I were only allowed to import one vehicle - and we had to accomplish this within 6 months of obtaining our permanent foreign residence status or we would lose the opportunity.

Some years ago I did import one vehicle. It cost me about 75% of the "Blue Book " as interpreted by the aduana (customs) which may or may not differ from standard Blue Book plus $600.00 US in fees and mandatory transport costs (internal) - even though no shipping of the vehicle was involved - I rode it into Argentina....

So please check your sources on dual citizenship and the import of (2) foreign registered vehicles per family???

Once again, I am not an expert but have lived in South America for more than ten years.

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Contrary to the above, the US does indeed recognize dual citizenship--somewhat begrudgingly. There are recent court rulings governing this.

Even more recent were changes in tax enforcement which make it complicated and potentially expensive for those holding dual citizenship. My sisters both renounced their US citizenship for this reason after 30 years or so of maintaining both. Look into it before making any irrevocable decisions.

And of course: don't take anyone's word for it, including xfiltrate's and certainly including mine.

Hope that's helpful.

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What we have, and it took three years of residence in Argentina and jumping through many financial and INTERPOL/police hoops are Argentina permanent foreign residents.

Thanks so much for your on-the-ground insight!

Here are a few of the English language resources I've been using to research gaining Argentine citizenship.

http://www.fourflagsjournal.com/the-...-in-argentina/

ARCA | Argentina: Citizenship & Passports

Citizenship in Argentina | FOUR FLAGS JOURNAL

https://www.justlanded.com/english/A...ts/Citizenship

http://www.expatarrivals.com/article...y-in-argentina

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nicholastanguma, I really wish you the best, but my parting words are
that three of your four references contradict each other and three of the four are for profit operations.

Let me just say I have a very intelligent foreign friend who placed his faith in for profit "immigration" assistance agencies and after three years and paying thousands of dollars to several different agencies, he realized he was being played and gave up the process.

This is not to say the contradictions are the results of changing laws or not , but I have heard there have been many recent changes to Argentine immigration policies.

And, I totally agree with javkap, this is the wrong place for this discussion, and therefore will stop contributing to this thread.

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Why don't you just apply for residency and live like that 7 month of the year in Buenos Aires, why are you, before you even move there thinking about argentinian citizanship?
I got residencia definitiva in Chile, and unless I realy mess it up, I will have it for good.
12 or so years ago I met a fellow german who could bring everything INCLUDUNG HIS CAR free of charge from Germany when he moved to Argentina, you might be lucky and the situation is still the same. If the cars are in your name for years they are part of your personal belongings and therefore free of customs duty.
If I was you, I would go there as a tourist, ship your vehicles down there, use them on US plates and you will be fine.
Do a border run with Montevideo after 3 months and you are ok to stay for another 3 months. Many many foreigners do it that way in Chile, they cross the andes once every 3 months and come back the following day. Some live like that in Chile for 10 years.
So why look for unnecessary heardaches?

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Thanks for all that information; very helpful.


Do you have a link for the VTV website?
Well sorry mate, usually I tends to think that everybody have same google search skills than me…

Come on! You can do it! Tape: VTV Argentina (enter) and …voila! There is … infovtv.com.ar

But as I told you all this entire thread isn’t relevant for this forum, only maybe for you and scars few others, so I don’t know how this link could help to travellers…
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Dual citizenship

Markharf and others, according to CURRENT U S travel.state.gov (official)

Please go to this web site...

Dual Nationality

"A U.S. national may acquire foreign nationality by marriage, or a person naturalized as a U.S. national may not lose the nationality of the country of birth. U.S. law does not mention dual nationality or require a person to choose one nationality or another. Also, a person who is automatically granted another nationality does not risk losing U.S. nationality. However, a person who acquires a foreign nationality by applying for it may lose U.S. nationality. In order to lose U.S. nationality, the law requires that the person must apply for the foreign nationality voluntarily, by free choice, and with the intention to give up U.S. nationality."

Of this I was speaking - those applying for foreign nationality.


Sorry for the confusion


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