Thanks for this information!

I own a moto stored in Huánuco right now and will eventually ride my Peru licensed moto south solo, with no friend. I have a goal to eventually reach "fin del mundo" at Ushuaia.

From your narration, it looks like I need someone with me, maybe a Peruvian national. Can they be a foreigner or do they have to be a Peruvian? That friend has to have the poder in their name, and also be present at the border, right?

If the friend needs to be a Peruvian national, maybe I can pay someone at my border crossing to be my friend and have a poder in their name.

I'm a little confused about this the details of steps 4 & 5. If you have time, maybe you can clarify some more. Toby may also have some information on the details of this issue, since it's important to his moto business. From either of you, I'd appreciate more information.

As a back up, I'm wondering if one can ride in to Brazil, crossing northeast of Cuzco on Peru 30, then continue in to Bolovia and avoid all these issues. It's a longer route, but I've been up Ruta 30 to short of Marcapata, and I saw quite a few motos on that road.

Why should anything be totally easy? This is adventure travel, right?

Edit: Ah, the key to the puzzle! Got it.

Your friend needs to be a Peruvian citizen (or maybe just resident), and have an ID card. And they do need to come with you to the border, unless Jupiter's 3rd moon is aligned with Uranus, then you might be able to leave without them present.

Yeah ideally the border town has a notary, a friendly hostel owner, and seperate border offices. Yunguyo/Copacabana has hostels, though I'm not sure if there's a notary there (we were told there wasn't, but i think that may have just been closed for summer holidays).

Re taking route 30 (I presume you mean via Puerto Maldonado), I've not been but am likely to come back that way - from what I've read you would have to go Peru>Brazil>Bolivia (there's no crossing from Peru to Bolivia). You might get lucky and the border guard can't be ****ed to enforce the law, but if you take that route I think it would be wise to try and find out where the nearest notary is in case you need to try PoA thing. (Just to clarify, once you've typed up the poder you must go to a notary to get it stamped, so ,if the nearest one is Puerto Maldonado, it could slow you down and dent your wallet a fair bit)

Hack, The Inapari border crossing with Asis Brasil is a pretty informal place (on the Peruvian side) and may not even require anything. Since Chaz encountered this issue (even tho over 100 have exited Peru before him with no issues), four have just gone back to the same border at a later time and crossed with no extra requirements, and two (including Chaz) have done it the way that Chaz wrote (actually it was the solution given by the customs agents).

Sushant (from Illinois) when encountering this situation at the border realized that he had cut his time too short to do PER-Bolivia-Chile-Peru (he only gave himself 3 weeks from central Peru and back again), and decided to just stay in Peru for his ride.

I have been the Brazil route to Bolivia and you DO NOT want to do that December to April because of the rainy season in the Bolivia Beni Watershed! LOTS of red clay for 100s of kms on end!


Chaz, THX for putting this together! This is helpful, and your first hand experience helps others! That's what makes this forum a community!

If one goes to the notary with the friend (yes, it can be a foreigner too if they have a Resident Visa in Peru) and the Notary writes the PODER up for you, THEY will recall all the info that needs to be on it. They will charge a bit more (I paid 120 soles, $36 USD most recently for a similar PODER), but I think it is worth it.


All, Since this came up we have been working with the MINISTERIO DE TURISMO and SUNAT (that customs is under) hoping for a document to bypass any need for this PODER stuff, but things move slow in South America.... I will write again here when we have something concrete.

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Just like to say thanks for the information ChazWozzer much appreciated i was getting worried about this border crossing

Crossed the border at Desaguadero border and everything was ok first of all got stamped out of Peru and into Bolivia then went round the corner to the aduana and got stamped out of Peru she gave me a 12 month pass for leaving the country and 30 days in Bolivia this was on a Sunday morning ,

Thank you Howard

Hey guys,

First of all, this is my first post here but I've been spending hours reading this forum and it has been extremely useful, so thanks for that.

I'm in Lima for a month and currently in search of a bike. I was planning to ride out of Peru at the end of November and cross straight to Chile, but it seems complicated.

Has anyone done it recently with a peruvian bike ?
Howardxre, if I understand correctly you didn't require a poder in order to cross at Desaguadero ?

Thanks,

David

I've just done it, Peru to Chile with a Peruvian bike. 2 weeks ago.

At the Peruvian aduana I said I'll be back in 9 months, they asked how long of a visa I had for Perú, I said six months. They gave me a 6 months exit permit. Anyway, the last guy who owned my bike overstayed the permit and payed a $30 fine, no biggy.

Entering Argentina was a b**tch. They still quote an outdated law that anyone entering must be a resident of the same place that the bike is from. Finally after 3 hours a nice (read intelligent) customs guy found the new law and let me in.

I have a copy of the correct law (with an exception for people who aren't from Mercosur countries) to get into Argentina. If you need it I'll message it to you.

Very good to know and quite a relief, thanks a lot for the fresh info.

Sounds more like someone tried to get some $$.... I have been entering Argentina with vehicles from other countries than where I lived since 1989 and never had any problem.
I do know this law applies for argentinians who enter with a foreign plated vehicle though.

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