20Likes
|
|
12 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 235
|
|
Aggressive confrontations in Ethiopia
Hi all,
Ethiopia scores high in my top-5 of most beautiful countries in Africa. Mountainous, green, almost pastoral. Fairly good roads, fresh mountain breeze, ideal road trip conditions. But never before in Africa have I experienced so much aggression. I am not talking about children and grown-ups begging, or children shouting "You, You!" at the top of their voice. I'm not talking about people walking in the middle of the road shouting things in Amharric when I want to pass. Here are some incidents to show what I mean:
A child picks up a stone and throws it towards the car.
In Addis a man runs alongside the car trying to hit Thimba, who has her head out of the window. Thimba gives a loud bark and growls. The man jumps back 2 meters. Bystanders applaude (for Thimba I presume). I praise her abundantly for this effective reaction!
In a village I am driving slowly waiting for a truck. A man sees Thimba, runs towards the car, his eyes wide open, shouting, foaming at the mouth. I see him reaching for something in his pocket, maybe a knife to attack Thimba. I accelerate and overtake the truck on the right hand side, which causes even more aggression among the other villagers.
In Gonder, a man who's walking on the pavement spots Thimba and without hesitation throws his plastic water bottle, which splashes against the side of the car.
I have no explanation for this exceptional behaviour. There are dogs everywhere, small dogs, big dogs, dead dogs (I see 8 of them lying on or beside the road in one day, left for the vultures). I speak to a young backpacker from Switzerland, and he meets only very friendly people. Perhaps it's the car in combination with Thimba. I know they hate Americans, and perhaps mistake every Farangi (foreigner) for an American? Whatever the reason, I'm not feeling very welcome.
Cheers from a far more friendly Sudan,
Gee
More on: Travels with Thimba
Does this explain/justify aggressive behaviour?
|
12 Oct 2014
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Colchester, UK & Sudan
Posts: 161
|
|
Hope you feel welcome in Sudan.
Regards
Schenkel
|
12 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: West Yorkshire UK
Posts: 1,785
|
|
So long as you are both Ok , bid the place ******s and carry on with the journey. I for one would be reaching for the dog biscuits/ black pudding and hoping to make a friend.
Biggest hassle I ever had with Gooner in the sidecar was mobile phone photographers stepping off the curb. Head north, we have beaches and parks and sausages and dog friendly pubs!
Andy
|
13 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 235
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Threewheelbonnie
Head north, we have beaches and parks and sausages and dog friendly pubs!
Andy
|
Hi Andy,
Oh my, a dog friendly pub!! Sounds great! And it seldom reaches 40 degrees in the shade without a
Cheers,
Gee
|
13 Oct 2014
|
Banned
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 971
|
|
Unfortunately i have a simular story to tell: http://www.afrikamotorrad.de/?report=en_transafrika
Back in Gondar, I stopped to buy fruit in the marketplace. Like always I created a huge crowd of people. The mood tipped, as the group started to ask for 'money money money". I decided to disappear, protected the kill switch of my machine with my thumb from black hands who were everywhere at my stuff and tried to pull me off the bike. No one stepped beside as I started the engine.
The guy who was playing with my light, got the handlebar in the chest, the girl, whose hands searched my pockets for money, was brought down by one of the side cases. A little more gas and I was out of the reach of the flying stones. Save...
|
13 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: London
Posts: 62
|
|
Lost count of the number stones that were thrown at my LC, mostly in rural areas, it seemed almost like an involuntary action, see foreign car, lob stone. I did actually stop once when a particularly large stone bounced off the bonnet and gave the young lad responsible a bollocking, he seemed genuinely puzzled as to what the problem was. Seemed we were ‘lucky’ as we met an American couple who had their windscreen smashed by a kid with a good aim.
|
13 Oct 2014
|
-
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,344
|
|
Give Thimba an extra dinner- well earned- good pooch! defending her master and his home.
|
13 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 235
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bertrand
Give Thimba an extra dinner- well earned- good pooch! defending her master and his home.
|
Thanks Bertrand, I sure will.
Cheers,
Gee
|
15 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: F
Posts: 856
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by danny_fitz
Lost count of the number stones that were thrown at my LC, mostly in rural areas, it seemed almost like an involuntary action, see foreign car, lob stone. I did actually stop once when a particularly large stone bounced off the bonnet and gave the young lad responsible a bollocking, he seemed genuinely puzzled as to what the problem was. Seemed we were ‘lucky’ as we met an American couple who had their windscreen smashed by a kid with a good aim.
|
It seems that driving in Ethiopia (rural areas) is not very safe....
RR.
|
16 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
HUBB regular
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 22
|
|
we passed through erhiopia on our AT's two weeka ago going south. we can not count the number of Stones, stickes and whatever flying in our direction. plus the idiots jumping infront of the bikes. loughing and having a blast. the country is amazingly beutiful but we were glad to made it out without killing something, someone or crash... the situation though was way better south of addis along the lakes passing arba minch.
Sent from my OMNIA7 using Tapatalk
|
17 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Canada
Posts: 738
|
|
Sadly the situation for a few years now. Never have heard a plausible explanation for why Ethiopia is so filled with rock throwing, etc.
One suggestion I would make is that travel in early morning and late in the day is better for minimizing rock throwing. Lots of subsistence farming happening so villages and roads are more quiet at the beginning and end of the day and therefore less chance for encounters with bored yet aggressive kids.
|
23 Oct 2014
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Mantova, Italy
Posts: 566
|
|
My 4-year old "Aika"
wants to tell Thimba that she's a great dog and sends her her congratulations!
__________________
Nick and his 2010 Yamaha XT1200Z Super Ténéré
|
26 Oct 2014
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 235
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Knight of the Holy Graal
My 4-year old "Aika"
wants to tell Thimba that she's a great dog and sends her her congratulations!
|
Thanks!
Flying back tomorrow from Cairo with Thimba, both glad to be back home again after nearly a year in Africa!
Cheers from Alexandria,
Gee
|
26 Oct 2014
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Colchester, UK & Sudan
Posts: 161
|
|
Best wishes and a pleasant flight.
Schenkel
|
26 Oct 2014
|
|
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
|
|
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Portugal
Posts: 1,134
|
|
I will drive around Africa again one day. Ethiopia is the only country that I'd actively look to avoid as it was unpleasant people wise. I gave it over 2.5 months but was really happy to drive out of the country. Being asked to be finger printed as I left was salt on the wound (hadn't been coming in).
That said Addis was quite pleasant and I meet quite a few people there who effectively told me that Addis is an internal refugee camp for people to escape to from problems in their area of the countryside. London mini cab driver told me the same. I certainly meet many friendly and helpful and wonderfully kind people as per most of Africa, but Ethiopia seems a a piece of land full of tensions and as a traveller your not immune from these troubles.
Ethiopia gives you access to Djibouti and Somaliland which are nice places to visit, but Ethiopia was hard work on many overlanding levels, for me at least. I went to remote areas as well as the tourist places - overall you couldn't camp easily, driving was stressful due to roads being used for everything but being a road, stopping was always problematic in some way, food outside of Addis/tourism places was tedious and in the east and west people were actively hostile and threatening. (You cross the border to Somaliland and Djibouti and the same tribe of people are wonderful and kind??).
I meet a young Aussie/Zim couple in in Addis that had their car attacked (full of holes) and who had been under siege at a local police station for a few days after they had run somebody's foot over who had suddenly walked out in front of them. The locals were going to kill them and they were clearly traumatised by the event and were looking to end their trip asap.
On the plus side(!), the Ethiopian road police are the best in Africa? Seems they aren't allowed to hassle foreigners so never had any kind of problem or annoying discussion - hurrah!!
After 2.5 years on the road I was burnt out when I arrived, but then proceeded to have a good experiences in Somaliland and Djibouti in-between my two visits to Ethiopia and then a wonderful 2 months in Sudan.
Ethiopia can be unfriendly and frustrating in-between kindness and beauty. I don't think your experiences are unique - glad you got through ok and lets collectively hope Ethiopia can sort out some of it's tensions....
Drive extremely defensively.
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...
2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.
"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)
Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.
Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.
Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!
What others say about HU...
"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia
"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK
"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia
"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA
"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada
"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa
"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia
"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany
Lots more comments here!
Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook
"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.
Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!
New to Horizons Unlimited?
New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!
Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.
Read more about Grant & Susan's story
Membership - help keep us going!
Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.
You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.
|
|
|