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Old 5 Nov 2012
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It's a very African solution. If you don't have a carnet then you're 'stuffed'.

But if you do have a carnet, then they don't use it, but issue you a Senegalese document in it's place.

So, your carnet never gets stamped, but you do need it...

Travel safe, Sam.
Can confirm the above
WITHOUT a CARNET you are stuffed.

The current situation as of 1.11.2012 is as follows>
the crossing at Rosso from the Mauritanian side is 14500 ougia

On the senegal side it is 10000 cfa
The Senegalese DO NOT accept the Carnet but WILL NOT issue a passavant without it. If you do not have it then you will need an escort to Dakar which can be astronomical, it was suggested to me the price is around 150 000 cfa....but you will be directed to discuss it with the station chief.

At Diama the going price for the passavant without the escort is 200 euro through the station chief Zargan.

In our case we obtained a passavant for 5000 cfa on the back of an old expired Carnet page with the assistance of a local fixer. Our regular assistant in these matters is a Mauritanian by the name of Ifra, a relaxed sensible guy in the midst of all this craziness. Importantly he speaks english.

Also do not forget the insurance.......without it you face a grande infraction and loads of hassle.

Sorry for making things more muddier

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Thank you for your impressions and informations.

Do you need the senegal insurance, when you come with an european one, with world coverage?

That you need the carnet is common:



That you have to optain too a passavant - smells like scam (or if you get a bill) for a silly border crew?

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As usual answers create more questions, RAC are currently quoting 4 weeks for carnet and i plan to leave uk in three, can anyone suggest a speedy alternative?My insurers wont go beyond morocco, I have previously used local axa insurers , any suggestions for mauri and senega insurancel, many thanks kev
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As usual answers create more questions, RAC are currently quoting 4 weeks for carnet and i plan to leave uk in three, can anyone suggest a speedy alternative?My insurers wont go beyond morocco, I have previously used local axa insurers , any suggestions for mauri and senega insurancel, many thanks kev
In Switzerland you can get the carnet in 3 days, after they receive their cash. www.tcs.ch

This should work too for you, except that the postage way need more time.

To insure in whole africa you can look @ tourinsure.de - but when your vehicle or bike isnt too expensiv - i would stay with the insurances you can optain on the borders... Then this insurance is expensiv

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If Senegal is going to go through all the BS of wanting you to have a carnet and not using the carnet but paying for a passevant and all that crap then I'll simply bypass through Mauritania via Mali. Getting a carnet in Sierra Leone just to be able to visit Senegal on the way to Europe sounds like a huge undertaking when all roads are new to us anyways. It all sounds like a scam on the part of the border folks to get rich quick of the tourists.

I've got an e-mail into the Senegalese Tourism office and we'll see if they even respond with any sort of answer.

I'm thinking having a vehicle which is registered in an ECOWAS member country may make things different for us.
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I've got an e-mail into the Senegalese Tourism office and we'll see if they even respond with any sort of answer.
Thanks for trying to clear that

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