Go Back   Horizons Unlimited - The HUBB > Regional Forums > sub-Saharan Africa
sub-Saharan Africa Topics specific to sub-Saharan Africa. (Includes all countries South of 17 degrees latitude)
Photo by Andy Miller, UK, Taking a rest, Jokulsarlon, Iceland

I haven't been everywhere...
but it's on my list!


Photo by Andy Miller, UK,
Taking a rest,
Jokulsarlon, Iceland



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10 Aug 2011
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 24
Mauritania to B Faso via Mali

Apologies if this belongs in the other forum.... How practical/easy is it ...coming down from the Atlantic route...to cross directly from Mauritania to Mali in the dry season...say December...? Worthwhile to avoid the costs/hassle of Senegal?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10 Aug 2011
Chris Scott's Avatar
Super Moderator
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Posts: 4,916
Worthwhile to avoid the costs/hassle of Senegal?

Haven't done so myself for many years, but from what I read here I would say yes. Unless you are an old hand at borders, Rosso border can be intimidating or expensive.

Ch
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11 Aug 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Hanoi, Vietnam
Posts: 360
Hi,
It's been 3 years since I did it, but Ayoune to Nioro was a doddle of a crossing.
Hearing the music on the streets was certainly conformation we'd made it to Mali!
I'd highly recomend Segou as a place to unwind for a while if you can spare the time.
Happy travels
Sam
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12 Aug 2011
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 33
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richiewizz View Post
Apologies if this belongs in the other forum.... How practical/easy is it ...coming down from the Atlantic route...to cross directly from Mauritania to Mali in the dry season...say December...? Worthwhile to avoid the costs/hassle of Senegal?
That border crossing into Mali should be straightforward. So is the Sikasso - Koloko crossing into Burkina Faso. People were nice, and although a little bribery might be expected at times it's a huge difference to Rosso. Bear in mind that BF is desperately poor and the borders are quieter, so the customs official who wants a little gift is probably living far below western poverty levels, whereas somebody on the west coast who thinks their uniform entitles them to some of your cash has probably said the same thing to a dozen other Europeans that day.

I was asked to give a valuation on a customs form for the vehicle when entering BF; I accidentally made a conversion error and left a zero off the number, at which point the customs official offered to buy the vehicle and reached into his drawer for some cash... The purpose of the customs form is undermined, as the form is not associated with anything in your passport, so if you sell the vehicle and leave by other means, the people at the exit point who look through your passport will have no way of knowing if you've evaded any import duties.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 13 Aug 2011
moro
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
a nice alternative Kankossa to Kayes by a fast sandy piste or even Selibabi to Kayes by a slow dirt & dust piste
no probs at all, did it end of march 2011

btw: you do NOT need a visa to enter Mali, just get the "laissez passer" at the border, cost 15.000 CFA (20 something euro) and then you have one week to do a proper visa in bamako freee of charge just need to fill in a form and 2 photos (up to 3 months one entry)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 9 Oct 2011
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 9
Quote:
Originally Posted by moro View Post
a nice alternative Kankossa to Kayes by a fast sandy piste or even Selibabi to Kayes by a slow dirt & dust piste
no probs at all, did it end of march 2011

btw: you do NOT need a visa to enter Mali, just get the "laissez passer" at the border, cost 15.000 CFA (20 something euro) and then you have one week to do a proper visa in bamako freee of charge just need to fill in a form and 2 photos (up to 3 months one entry)
Sorry if this is a dumb question: If I stay less then one week in Mali, can I just skip the visa and exit with the "laissez passer"?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 9 Oct 2011
Registered Users
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Germany
Posts: 125
Mali visa prolongation at the immigration in Bamako is not free, it costs 5000cfa for one month ! The laisser passez for the motorbike is one month, guess it was around 4000cfa.

You don´t have to take the Rosso border, I made the piste to Diama on a 35years old vespa, no problem at all ! You´ll pass a national-park on the way which is pretty beautiful. At the border itself we paid 25 Euros for a 3 days laisser passez after 1 hrs negotiation, which we prolonged in Dakar for free 2 times ! It helps if you make friends with everybody and play the good old "poor student" number ! ;-)

Oh, by the way one week for mali would be a shame, the place is absolutely amazing and I loved every day of the 1,5 month I was there.


greetings from Cotonou,

Chris
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 23 Oct 2011
Registered Users
New on the HUBB
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: London
Posts: 1
Crossing direct from Mauritania to Mali is definitely worthwhile and quite easy if you stick to the main routes. In our first attempt we went south from M'bout thinking we could get to Kayes through a shortcut and save some time, but the track became uncrossable near the Mali border and we were forced to return to Kiffa to take the main road. We eventually crossed from Ayoun El Atrous without much problems.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 23 Oct 2011
Banned
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 971
Hi,

If done it a few monts ago to avoid the rosso border. No problem at all, just carry enouth petrol. In Mauretania moast of the petrolstations in small towns onely have Diesel. 100km from the boarder in Mali you will find petrol again

Travel save, Tobi
Riding the rough west coast through Africa part 3
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11 Nov 2011
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 24
Thanks for all the above.....very helpful. Coud anyone say just what range one needs to safely make it between petrol stations...? I can do about 380Km...is that enough??

thanks

Richard
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11 Nov 2011
Titbird's Avatar
Contributing Member
Veteran HUBBer
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Back in Europe
Posts: 181
380 km is not enough, I can do 500 and never carried extra fuel. I would say, take a 5 liter jerrycan and you will be allright.
btw, I will be on the same route at the end of december.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12 Nov 2011
Registered Users
HUBB regular
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: London
Posts: 24
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richiewizz View Post
Thanks for all the above.....very helpful. Coud anyone say just what range one needs to safely make it between petrol stations...? I can do about 380Km...is that enough??

thanks

Richard

Richard,
Two of us on bikes just passed through Mauritania. Petrol was available in all of the major towns (see my post on the latest travel update in this section). We carried extra jerry cans, although we never used them.

The long stretch from the Moroccan / Western Saharah border to Nouakchott was just in our range (around 480km), but we were led to believe byother travellors that there was petrol available about half way. We also saw informal sellers of petrol in plastic bottles along the route, but never used them, so can't vouch for the quality or price.

Adrian
__________________
London to Cape Town
http://pikipikisafari.net
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 Registered Users and/or Members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Mali and Burkina Faso visa in Nouakchott Erik D. sub-Saharan Africa 1 19 Nov 2016 20:03
Morocco, Mauritania, Senegal, Mali, Berkina Faso, Togo Newbie Travellers Seeking Travellers 4 4 Jun 2011 19:40
Burkina Faso/Mali info needed Griffdowg sub-Saharan Africa 6 14 Mar 2011 21:37
Selling in Mali or Burkina Faso crlyn Trip Paperwork 0 31 Jan 2011 12:02
tips for selling a car in Mali or Bukina Faso Glorio Esteban Travellers' questions that don't fit anywhere else 5 11 Feb 2009 19:27

 
 

Announcements

Thinking about traveling? Not sure about the whole thing? Watch the HU Achievable Dream Video Trailers and then get ALL the information you need to get inspired and learn how to travel anywhere in the world!

Have YOU ever wondered who has ridden around the world? We did too - and now here's the list of Circumnavigators!
Check it out now
, and add your information if we didn't find you.

Next HU Eventscalendar

ALL Dates subject to change.

2025 Confirmed Events:

  • Virginia: April 24-27 2025
  • Queensland is back! May 2-4 2025
  • Germany Summer: May 29-June 1 2025
  • CanWest: July 10-13 2025
  • Switzerland: Date TBC
  • Ecuador: Date TBC
  • Romania: Date TBC
  • Austria: Sept. 11-14
  • California: September 18-21
  • France: September 19-21 2025
  • Germany Autumn: Oct 30-Nov 2 2025

Add yourself to the Updates List for each event!

Questions about an event? Ask here

See all event details

 
World's most listened to Adventure Motorbike Show!
Check the RAW segments; Grant, your HU host is on every month!
Episodes below to listen to while you, err, pretend to do something or other...

Adventurous Bikers – We've got all your Hygiene & Protection needs SORTED! Powdered Hair & Body Wash, Moisturising Cream Insect Repellent, and Moisturising Cream Sunscreen SPF50. ESSENTIAL | CONVENIENT | FUNCTIONAL.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

2020 Edition of Chris Scott's Adventure Motorcycling Handbook.

"Ultimate global guide for red-blooded bikers planning overseas exploration. Covers choice & preparation of best bike, shipping overseas, baggage design, riding techniques, travel health, visas, documentation, safety and useful addresses." Recommended. (Grant)



Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance.

Ripcord Rescue Travel Insurance™ combines into a single integrated program the best evacuation and rescue with the premier travel insurance coverages designed for adventurers.

Led by special operations veterans, Stanford Medicine affiliated physicians, paramedics and other travel experts, Ripcord is perfect for adventure seekers, climbers, skiers, sports enthusiasts, hunters, international travelers, humanitarian efforts, expeditions and more.

Ripcord travel protection is now available for ALL nationalities, and travel is covered on motorcycles of all sizes!


 

What others say about HU...

"This site is the BIBLE for international bike travelers." Greg, Australia

"Thank you! The web site, The travels, The insight, The inspiration, Everything, just thanks." Colin, UK

"My friend and I are planning a trip from Singapore to England... We found (the HU) site invaluable as an aid to planning and have based a lot of our purchases (bikes, riding gear, etc.) on what we have learned from this site." Phil, Australia

"I for one always had an adventurous spirit, but you and Susan lit the fire for my trip and I'll be forever grateful for what you two do to inspire others to just do it." Brent, USA

"Your website is a mecca of valuable information and the (video) series is informative, entertaining, and inspiring!" Jennifer, Canada

"Your worldwide organisation and events are the Go To places to for all serious touring and aspiring touring bikers." Trevor, South Africa

"This is the answer to all my questions." Haydn, Australia

"Keep going the excellent work you are doing for Horizons Unlimited - I love it!" Thomas, Germany

Lots more comments here!



Five books by Graham Field!

Diaries of a compulsive traveller
by Graham Field
Book, eBook, Audiobook

"A compelling, honest, inspiring and entertaining writing style with a built-in feel-good factor" Get them NOW from the authors' website and Amazon.com, Amazon.ca, Amazon.co.uk.



Back Road Map Books and Backroad GPS Maps for all of Canada - a must have!

New to Horizons Unlimited?

New to motorcycle travelling? New to the HU site? Confused? Too many options? It's really very simple - just 4 easy steps!

Horizons Unlimited was founded in 1997 by Grant and Susan Johnson following their journey around the world on a BMW R80G/S.

Susan and Grant Johnson Read more about Grant & Susan's story

Membership - help keep us going!

Horizons Unlimited is not a big multi-national company, just two people who love motorcycle travel and have grown what started as a hobby in 1997 into a full time job (usually 8-10 hours per day and 7 days a week) and a labour of love. To keep it going and a roof over our heads, we run events all over the world with the help of volunteers; we sell inspirational and informative DVDs; we have a few selected advertisers; and we make a small amount from memberships.

You don't have to be a Member to come to an HU meeting, access the website, or ask questions on the HUBB. What you get for your membership contribution is our sincere gratitude, good karma and knowing that you're helping to keep the motorcycle travel dream alive. Contributing Members and Gold Members do get additional features on the HUBB. Here's a list of all the Member benefits on the HUBB.




All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:33.