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Location: Back into the hamster wheel again, in Oslo - Norway. Did a 5 year RTW trip/250 k kms, 2014-2019
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Well lets see - I carry clutch cable, throttle cable, rear brake pads, front brake pads, a sprocket set, cush rubber, rear wheel bearings, front wheel bearings, steering bearings, light bulb, all 4 levers, spark plug, innertubes front and rear..... but no clutch plates...
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24 Dec 2015
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Originally Posted by tremens
or, clutches should be more robust and durable?
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And that way the bike weights more .. so you'll need a stronger frame, bigger engine, stronger gearbox (heavier) ... so so it goes.
If you want something that you cannot break ... think tank.
If you want to use what you have ... and have it survive ... learn to use it within its capabilities.
Most, if not all, clutches are not meant for continuous slipping. They will ware out fast, over heat with this kind of abuse. It is far safer for the clutch to avoid slipping it.
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Originally Posted by tremens
Mollydog, nice shots but look what bikes you have....light DS... try the same with 210kg plus adventure bike. Way easier to kill the clutch when you get buried in sand.
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It's true, some lightweight bikes in my shots but some XR600's too ... and my DR650 was there too on other trips shown.
210 kgs. is just TOO MUCH (for me). (see fallen R1200GS below) Expert level riders can do it but not me.
I've seen guys ride loaded GS's in sand and were able to make it through most times. It's all technique. I believe your 660 Tenere' may be right at the limit for doing deep sand.
My advice? If you can, ride very early in the AM ... sand is damp, not so soft.
Low pressure in tires. Helps!

My DR650 and friends XR600. I also rode a KLR650 around here ... not good!
But my friends XR600 and my DR650 did OK in the deep sand. A little faster pace is better, and tires at low pressure helps too! Stay in right gear and you may not have to slip clutch too much!
Most riders look down at their front tire ... doing that will have you on the ground or stalled, buried in sand!  If you look WAY OUT FRONT ... it really helps!

Another fall in deep "Bull Dust" in Copper Canyon. (an area there where NO ONE HAS BEEN!) After 5 falls I took over riding the GS and guy in Yellow Aerostich rode my DL1000 Vstrom. He did better on the Vstrom ... no more falls. I rode the GS and it was TOUGH. I nearly killed myself a few times. The Bull Dust was created from HUGE logging trucks. The "Fesh Fesh"
was about one foot to 2 feet deep in places. You could not see your front tire at all and the deep dust created a "Wake" like driving a boat through water. Very strange! You could not see ROCK, STUMP, HOLE ahead. Very dangerous.
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