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Hello all,

I have an xt600e year 2000 and I changed the oil filter and oil, here is what I did.

1. Got the bike warm.
2. Took out oil filler cap.
3. Drained frame....left it draining.
4. Drained sump....left it draining.
5. Removed oil filter....left it draining.
6. Left it an hour.
7. Poured oil into filter and fitted it.
8. Sump plug in.
9. Frame plug in.
10. Measured out 2.5 litres of oil and poured it in.
11. Turned it a few times with kill switch off to circulate the oil.
12.Choke on, started it up and let it idle for 4-5 minutes while I checked for any leaks.
13.Checked level and added more oil with a measuring jug until it was at the correct level.

My owners manual and a workshop manual both say the capacity with oil filter replacement is 2.8 litres.

To my surprise I added another 1.3 litres (in .25L increments) so the total was 3.8 litres. Luckily I had bought 4 litres of oil.

But I am concerned that I did some damage to my engine by running it for 4-5 minutes with only 2.5 litres of oil inside.
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Hello all,

I have an xt600e year 2000 and I changed the oil filter and oil, here is what I did.

1. Got the bike warm.
2. Took out oil filler cap.
3. Drained frame....left it draining.
4. Drained sump....left it draining.
5. Removed oil filter....left it draining.
6. Left it an hour.
7. Poured oil into filter and fitted it. not sure why you did that- i :confused1:
8. Sump plug in.
9. Frame plug in.
10. Measured out 2.5 litres of oil and poured it in.
11. Turned it a few times with kill switch off to circulate the oil.
12.Choke on, started it up and let it idle for 4-5 minutes while I checked for any leaks.
13.Checked level and added more oil with a measuring jug until it was at the correct level.

My owners manual and a workshop manual both say the capacity with oil filter replacement is 2.8 litres.

To my surprise I added another 1.3 litres (in .25L increments) so the total was 3.8 litres. Luckily I had bought 4 litres of oil.

But I am concerned that I did some damage to my engine by running it for 4-5 minutes with only 2.5 litres of oil inside.
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1- as you ran the bike with the text book amount- no damage was done-
BUT
If your handbook states that the oil inc. filter change is 2.8 litres then that is the correct amount to put in- It will vary a tiny bit from engine to engine but you say that you added almost 50% more oil and that, IMHO, you should check back with your dealer as it doesn't sound right at all and could cause a problem.
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Thanks for the welcome.

When the dealer was showing me around the bike I told him I was going to change the oil and filter and he suggested I pour oil into the filter before fitting. I should have asked why.
It apparenlt holds about 0.06 of a litre.

The manuals say the oil capacity is 2.8 litres but reading the workshop manual I see it says 3.3 litres for a dry engine.

The funny thing is I kept the old oil that I drained out in an old oil container and just now I poured it into a measuring jug and it measured 3.8 litres.
So I have put back exactly the same amount of oil into the bike.

It is at the correct level on the dipstick now too.

If it is at the correct level now I am worried I did some damage the 4-5 minutes it only had 2.8 litres in.
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I'm not familiar with your bike, does it use the frame as a dry sump? If so it will make a difference to what you see at the dip stick between the engine being hot or cold! Just because you took 3.8l out that does mean it's correct, it could of been overfilled when you purchased it. If the manual says 2.8 and you have 3.8 in it I would be worried.Was the oil light on when you ran it with 2.8? If not I would ask why not if "in theory" it was a litre short of what it should be.
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You need to run these engines for at least 20 minutes before measuring the level.

If I were you I'd drain the oil out, put back in the right amount (2.8 litres) and run the bike for a good 20 mins, then dip the oil and check your level.
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You need to run these engines for at least 20 minutes before measuring the level.

If I were you I'd drain the oil out, put back in the right amount (2.8 litres) and run the bike for a good 20 mins, then dip the oil and check your level.

Personally, being lazy I would ride the bike for 20 minutes and check the oil level. It does not really hurt the engine of a DRY SUMP bike to have the oil tank over full. Assuming it is which I doubt. If It REALLY is overfull, just drain out a little. Dont risk contaminating your oil by emptying it out and putting it back, may all be in vain anyway. Manufacturing tolerances of things like tanks are huge. My 22 litre BMW tank would never take more than 18 litres. My current Enfield tank is quoted at 14 1/2 lires +- 1 litre, I did several miles on reserve and even then could only get 11,8 litres in the tank (reserve is quoted at 1 litre). So the book figures are really guesstimates. Don't stress over it. You have lots of clean fresh oil in your bike and a new filter. It will really like that.
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