The impression I get from Austin is this, that anyone booking on a commercial trip is basically kidding themselves in that they are actually on an organised holiday. Am I right, here? Austin?

One mans "Hard Core, Adventure, Extreme Tour" is anothers day trip to Scarbourough. Selling a trip that twelve other riders did in the same pre-booked hotels the week before is dishonest as an adventure in the classical sense of the word, but in a roller coaster ride way (safe yet still maybe scary for the rider) is maybe less so. They are pointless if you want to learn the ropes but the border crossing is a case of a hired flunky taking your documents away while another chases the beggers and a third dishes out coffee from the support vehicle. If you have a puncture and "Abdul the support mechanic" brings you another bike, I too would be tempted to call it a holiday and therefore "dishonest and pointless" as an adventure. Now if you want a holiday, why not go. I enjoy Fish and chips by the sea once in a while, I just don't tell my mates in the pub about the terrible risk of getting Cod instead of Haddock.

My 65 year old parents are going to Morocco with their camper van group in May. It's a holiday, they'll play bingo most nights . It's maybe a little more adventurous than the Italian lakes, but I don't think they'll be buying sand mats, tinned water and thing made from a sharpened CD that combines the functions of camel skinner and heliograph! I get the impression this might not fit with some MCN riders ideas of what to expect from a "Adventure Trip" to the Dark Continent.

I only met Mr. Vince once for about a minute. He didn't strike me as someone to mince his words. This is usually but not always a good thing.

Somethat back on track, I was given a subscription to RIDE. It's ages since I had a glossy mag. I'm sort of looking forwards to the plonk through the letter box. Wonder how long that feeling will last? Will it still be "600 supersports four way shoot outs"? I'm sort of excited!

Andy

Andy I have a subscription to ride. And I now find they have taken another year out of my bank with out telling me. Once this year's has run, I'll not be getting it again, Just a glorified Argos catalogue selling kit that's over priced. And then you';; find a load of re-prints of features printed in the magazine only a few month's back. Out of a 100 page's you may find a dozen that's worth reading.

Any way if it was a free present. Best of luck.
John933

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To buy petrol in Europe. Pull up at station. Wait. Get out a 20 Euro note, then ask someone to fill up the bike. Give person money. Ride away. Simple.

This has been hashed about many times. I believe that the "Adventure" title depends on what you personally have done before.
It might be your first 100 mile trip on your FS1E.
For some, taking a three day trip into France is a challenge and for others six months away is the norm.
Do what you want to do. Push your personal boundaries. Experience New things.
Adventure ?
Travel ?
Holiday ?
All three please !!!!

[quote=Big Yellow Tractor;317472]This has been hashed about many times. I believe that the "Adventure" title depends on what you personally have done before.
It might be your first 100 mile trip on your FS1E.
For some, taking a three day trip into France is a challenge and for others six months away is the norm.
Do what you want to do. Push your personal boundaries. Experience New things.
Adventure ?
Travel ?
Holiday ?
All three please !!!![/quot]


Too right B.Y.T.