Grant should get ready for an influx as Vertical Scope are a nightmare.

They managed to kill off a really good forum pretty quickly as they did indeed flood the site with adverts, the mods were all changed from technical experts in the forum subject matter to muppets trying to be maintain that they knew the subject when that was far from the truth - not surprising really as they were responsible for multiple forums covering multiple subjects. Don't even think about criticising VS on that site as it will be scrubbed off in no time. The other joyful thing was that they claimed copyright for all of the images and information on the site so posters ended up deleting it off the website - again rendering the website less helpful. The old forum is still open - but you can watch the tumbleweed roll past. The latest post today is from 2 weeks ago - normally there were dozens of posts every day and on Friday it get really busy with hundreds going up especially if there was a "hot topic" - in a similar way to oil / tyres / bike choice can cause a wave of posts here.

The end result was that there was a new forum launched by the old mods, which kept the same character as the old one had. Oddly the new forum had a very quick launch and the member numbers grew incredibly fast.

Other than that Vertical Scope are great custodians of a forum.

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