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Originally Posted by Lonerider
I am riding around Northern Thailand now and I am sweating my perverbials off but I am wearing all my kit because you never know, dogs running in to the middle of the road, mad kids and adults on scooters which just pull out when they want, no road sense, getting over excited on the twistys, the list is endless. Wear the kit, better to be safe than think...I wish I had worn it!
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Hopefully wearing appropriate riding gear for Thailand? ... not UK Winterized gear? Good HOT weather gear exists. No need for flip flops and shorts. Many Farang end up in emergency there. Nasty. (seen it in person!)
We see a few RTW travelers come through California & run into them in Mexico wearing gear suited for N. EU and UK climes. Thick, heavy WP jackets/ pants, don't vent well. Good down to below freezing but over 27C (80F) they are miserable.
ALL W R O N G for Summer or the Tropical South! Heat stroke is real. Dehydration, exhaustion ... misery.
Why not do what racers do? I'm sure our Oz brothers know about this too.
In my racing days I rode a few Enduros in Hot weather, did Desert racing in the Mojave too.
You had to have protection ... but needed to stay cool. Used those tips from back then in current hot weather riding kit. Not perfect, but much better than flip/flops and shorts.
Part of this kit includes mesh dirt bike riding pants. Very strong, yet flow a TON of air, even moving 15 mph. If it turns cold ... you MUST stop, change, or ...slip rain pants OVER the dirt riding pants for warmth.
I always wear my independent KNEE and HIP guard armor under the dirt pants.
Up top it's a compromise ... risky.
No armored riding jacket (w/built in back protector). But there are now so many GOOD Fully armored FULL mesh jackets out there that work very well in heat and humidity. Light colors helps too. That is my recommendation ... perfect for Thailand.
But when going without Mesh jacket I wear long sleeved dirt bike Jersey but with independent Elbow/forearm strap-on guards. So ... NO back protector. But one could wear one.  ... or get a Mesh jacket ... many for under $100 USD.
ALWAYS wear Boots & Gloves ... no matter temps. (unless just popping out for dinner, short distance) Almost always wear my Flip-Up helmet (UP position in slow going) but ride with it down at speed.
In SUPER-HOT heat, it's cooler to run shield DOWN. (IE: Death Valley in 118F/47C)
Toughest heat, IMO, is places like Asia/India where you've got 95F/35C with 90% humidity. Very tough, no matter what you wear. After time and acclimation, you may be able to ZEN your way through this ... like the locals do. Takes practice. Most fight it ... and end up hating life and whinging.
If you can avoid super hot weather, do it. If not, try to ride smart. Ride EARLY AM or at night. Knock off early, get drunk!  Not much fun riding a bike, stuck in traffic, going 10 mph, sat at traffic lights in mid day Sun.
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Originally Posted by mollydog
Hopefully wearing appropriate riding gear for Thailand? ... not UK Winterized gear? Good HOT weather gear exists. No need for flip flops and shorts. Many Farang end up in emergency there. Nasty. (seen it in person!)
We see a few RTW travelers come through California & run into them in Mexico wearing gear suited for N. EU and UK climes. Thick, heavy WP jackets/ pants, don't vent well. Good down to below freezing but over 27C (80F) they are miserable.
ALL W R O N G for Summer or the Tropical South! Heat stroke is real. Dehydration, exhaustion ... misery.
Why not do what racers do? I'm sure our Oz brothers know about this too.
In my racing days I rode a few Enduros in Hot weather, did Desert racing in the Mojave too.
You had to have protection ... but needed to stay cool. Used those tips from back then in current hot weather riding kit. Not perfect, but much better than flip/flops and shorts.
Part of this kit includes mesh dirt bike riding pants. Very strong, yet flow a TON of air, even moving 15 mph. If it turns cold ... you MUST stop, change, or ...slip rain pants OVER the dirt riding pants for warmth.
I always wear my independent KNEE and HIP guard armor under the dirt pants.
Up top it's a compromise ... risky.
No armored riding jacket (w/built in back protector). But there are now so many GOOD Fully armored FULL mesh jackets out there that work very well in heat and humidity. Light colors helps too. That is my recommendation ... perfect for Thailand.
But when going without Mesh jacket I wear long sleeved dirt bike Jersey but with independent Elbow/forearm strap-on guards. So ... NO back protector. But one could wear one.  ... or get a Mesh jacket ... many for under $100 USD.
ALWAYS wear Boots & Gloves ... no matter temps. (unless just popping out for dinner, short distance) Almost always wear my Flip-Up helmet (UP position in slow going) but ride with it down at speed.
In SUPER-HOT heat, it's cooler to run shield DOWN. (IE: Death Valley in 118F/47C)
Toughest heat, IMO, is places like Asia/India where you've got 95F/35C with 90% humidity. Very tough, no matter what you wear. After time and acclimation, you may be able to ZEN your way through this ... like the locals do. Takes practice. Most fight it ... and end up hating life and whinging.
If you can avoid super hot weather, do it. If not, try to ride smart. Ride EARLY AM or at night. Knock off early, get drunk!  Not much fun riding a bike, stuck in traffic, going 10 mph, sat at traffic lights in mid day Sun.
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I am wearing off road gear, meshed off road trousers and thin off road top, vented gloves, got the knee protection, meshed body armour, off road boots and an off road helmet with goggles as is let's a bit more air on to the face.
Wayne
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All the kit ?
After a slide down the road wearing boardies & T shirt, I had the gravel scrubbed out of what was left of my raw bleeding skin with a nylon brush under a saline shower
Answer's easy, or what?
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similar experience but dropped it twice, icy side of the mountain-dry on the other-inner side of the knee cap had no skin or flesh ,right past those protective denim jeans .
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I think my internal thermostat must be broken. I love warmth, once it gets to 30-35C I start to become really alive. Above 45C I have to take things quietly.
To see me you would think I always wear the same gear, but not so. The outer layer is usually the same except when very cold or wet on go the windproof waterproofs. It is what’s underneath that changes. and also how things are arranged, For instance in hot weather have the cuffs and trouser bottoms open. not many layers.
A week ago I went for a little bimble about in 2-3C after 24 miles I was feeling a bit chilly. another 10 and I would have been chilled. That is about my limit for cold weather.
In hot weather you do really need to drink often because riding then is very drying from both sweat and breathing. Stop often ideally to sit in the shade, drink a little even take a rest. My chair is off with just two bungees, and water can be slid up out of my luggage.
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I think my internal thermostat must be broken.
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Yes, it is a function of aging and we are more susceptible, as are those who carry less fat on their body.
So, you were a potential case of hypothermia.
Hypothermia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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All the gear, all the time. Open all vents in summer, liners and warm gloves in winter. Each to his own.
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