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Some of you should look up "germ theory". Apparently, it is not understood by quite a few of you.

Oh, yeah, "but it's only a theory",
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Some of you should look up "germ theory". Apparently, it is not understood by quite a few of you.

Oh, yeah, "but it's only a theory",
Having studied Microbiology at University I think I understand bacteria, virus and hygiene very well thank you

You seem to be confusing an acceptable way of cleaning up after leaving the kids at the pool for billions of people worldwide with good hygiene practices.

It doesn't matter whether you've caressed your posterior with some of andrex's finest quilted bottom soothers or if you scraped it clean with your finger nail.

What matters is your hygiene standards afterwards

Exposure to germs is actually good for a human immune system as it helps a body build up a resistance to bacteria and infections. Unfortunately western media and marketing by the cleaning product industry have many people believing any thing which isn't more sterile than an operating theatre is dangerous for them.
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Some of you should look up "germ theory". Apparently, it is not understood by quite a few of you.

Oh, yeah, "but it's only a theory",
Take a look at a piece of lavatory paper under a microscope - it's not like a sheet of plastic, but a web of fibres. These germs of which you speak can easily get through here, and they are on your finger. Only there is no water flowing over your finger when you use paper.

Still need to wash hands after cleaning up, even if you use paper.
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What matters is your hygiene standards afterwards
If only it was that simple. Not touching feces in the first place helps a lot too.

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Exposure to germs is actually good for a human immune system as it helps a body build up a resistance to bacteria and infections. Unfortunately western media and marketing by the cleaning product industry have many people believing any thing which isn't more sterile than an operating theatre is dangerous for them.
Yeah, dysentery, cholera and other niceties is not a problem at all, because it's actually good for you. It is only an attitude problem, and it's not dangerous at all. It's all due to Western sensitivies. Bear in mind, I am NOT talking about germs in general. I am talking about literally touching feces.

Sorry, but you attempting an appeal to authority by claiming to have studied microbiology is ridiculous, given that you don't know about how fecal matter is a real issue in transferring diseases.


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Take a look at a piece of lavatory paper under a microscope - it's not like a sheet of plastic, but a web of fibres. These germs of which you speak can easily get through here, and they are on your finger. Only there is no water flowing over your finger when you use paper.
Really? You really think that all else equal, just as much fecal bacteria touches your hand with toilet paper in between you butt and hand as washing your bum with a squirt bottle and massaging your bunghole with your fingers?

And, also, do people ignore the point about not using running water to wash your hands afterwards, as is so common in Musling countries, the moment you move out of the cities?

Anyway, we have people claiming touching feces is not a health issue, that germs, even from feces is not a problem when it comes to spreading diseases, and that because paper is porous, therefore you're just as much in touch with bacteria than if using your fingers directly.

Excellent. I really like just how stupid this is, and just how little TheWarden seems to have actually been educated by his claimed "education".
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If only it was that simple. Not touching feces in the first place helps a lot too.[\QUOTE]

Sorry, but you attempting an appeal to authority by claiming to have studied microbiology is ridiculous, given that you don't know about how fecal matter is a real issue in transferring diseases.

Excellent. I really like just how stupid this is, and just how little TheWarden seems to have actually been educated by his claimed "education".
Attitudes like yours are not wanted or welcome on the Hubb

I graduated from University having studied food microbiology on my first course, since then I have 16 years experience in the environmental industry, what qualifies you to make your points?

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Wow, now this thread has developed into a p!ssing competition as to who knows more about poo... I've debated whether this thread needs to be moved to Traveller's Health or The Pub. I'll go for the latter.
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Attitudes like yours are not wanted or welcome on the Hubb
But arguments from authority to support plain falsehoods are?


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I graduated from University having studied food microbiology on my first course, since then I have 16 years experience in the environmental industry, what qualifies you to make your points?

As I said before, denying that faeces plays a big part in the transfer of a plethora of diseases says it all. I don't care how many times you claim to have an education in microbiology, where you claim to have gotten it, or how many years of experience you have in an almost completely unrelated industry.

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Some sh!t posts deleted.

Here are some forum rules: http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...hu_forum_rules

I don't know how to say this in easy to understand terms, but having to moderate a bun-fight about who knows more about sh!t is not something I signed up for when becoming a mod on this bike/4x4/pushbike travel forum. Both of you, please take your sh!t off-forum...

Life is too short.

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