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how much luggage do you take ??
I take as little as posable !
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Depends how far I'm going, for a day trip on my trials bike I use a camelbak bag as a mini backpack with water, an energy bar, phone, and my house keys.
When I moved house on a motorbike I put as much on as I thought was safe, yet I've seen RTW photos here with more stuff packed on a smaller bike, lol
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I only take the minimum ,,
So many bikers take far too much "stuff " , that they never use !
You can allways buy things if needed ! 
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I take as little as posable !
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I guess most people have that principle in mind but your 'little as possible' may not be the same as mine. If you're camping you're going to need a lot more stuff than if you're depending on hotels, couches etc.
Here's what we loaded onto our two bikes for our recent Morocco trip -
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I take as little as posable !
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Just take what you wanna take and learn to ride with that.
It's your trip and only you know what you need to enjoy your ride.
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A vague question (for what length of trip? in what area of the world?), and mostly vague answers. 
I'll try to be specific and helpful:
- I ride with panniers and a top box. The topbox is mostly empty while I am riding: it is there to keep my helmet and gloves while I am off the bike. Anything that lives in the topbox must be small enough to either fit inside the helmet along with my gloves, or fit beside the helmet. So at a maximum, in my topbox I have a spare charging cable, my small electric air pump, and a folded canvas "emergency" backpack. Tested that all of these fit with my helmet in the topbox and it closes. Then, if I buy groceries for the evening etc., they can go in the topbox while my helmet is on my head, or in the emergency backpack
- If I intend to camp, all of my camping stuff goes in a separate drybag that gets strapped to the passenger seat. This includes:
[**] a) the tent;
[**] b) the thermarest, inflatable pillow, and sleeping bag, all of which go into the thermarest's inflation bag;
[**] c) a Primus Litrek kettle/pan combo, inside which is stored a gas canister, matches/a lighter, a tiny burner that screws on top of the canister, and a few teabags/instant coffee pouches. The kettle comes in a mesh bag, and a cutlery set (knife, fork and soup spoon, inside a small plastic sheath) fit into the bag as well. There is enough space left over for a few pouches of dry soup or oatmeal, or sundry useful items like a finger saw.
[**] All of these items are cheap to medium, and I can afford to lose them. The thermarest is the most expensive of these (more than the tent!), but it's been around and I consider its cost to have amortized over many adventures.
[**] On my old bike with Kappa K33/Givi V35 panniers, I could fit all of this into a single pannier instead of a drybag, which was convenient for a weekend camping trip.
- The other pannier is for everything else: tools, electronics, clothes.
[**] d) Tools include the factory toolset that used to live under the seat (now replaced by my dashcam's central unit), electric air pump and tire repair set, zipties, a tube of two-component epoxy putty rated for metal, zipties. Anything that needs more tools than that, is beyond my mechanical abilities anyway.
[**] Chain lube obviously - but I can get it on the road at any gas station.
[**] Electronics: power bank, chargers, an ipad and/or kindle. Used to travel with a full laptop, might still need to if I am on an extended trip and need to work in the meantime. Laptop would go inside a neoprene sleeve, and if I am unsure about the seals of my panniers - into a trashbag or cheap small drybag. I don't take my big camera along any more, phone and dashcam are enough.
- Clothes:
[**] One each of socks, underwear, and T-shirt for each night I am spending away from home, up to a max of maybe 5-6, which I can either stretch over several days each, do laundry on the road, or just buy cheap replacements. Synthetic T-shirts preferred especially for warm seasons, but one or two cotton ones are also nice to have.
[**] At least a few tube scarves/buffs, which I use as a helmet sock, or as a scarf off the bike.
[**] One universal pair of off-bike pants, these can be jeans or a nicer kind of hiking/cargo pant.
[**] One softshell jacket, warm and wind/waterproof, ideally with a hood, can be worn around town in most weather where I would ride on two wheels, can serve as an extra warm layer under my gear.
[**] One pair of off-bike shoes, can be simple canvas slip-ons, but my favourite model of many years is the Merrell Jungle Mocs. No laces or buckles. MAYBE also flipflops for beach/campsite wear.
[**] One hat - could be a cap or baseball hat, sometimes I bring my folding kangaroo-leather Barmah hat. This can also live in the topbox if there is space.
[**] One pair of merino wool thin gloves, that double as moto glove liners in cold weather. Alternatively I have a pair of very thin tech-fabric skiing gloves.
- Multiple sets of earplugs, both for riding time and sleeping at a campsite or cheap hotel/hostel.
- * Toiletries: toothbrush, toothpaste, shower gel and sponge, microfiber towel (folds really small). Shaving kit if you need it. Pro tip: hotel toiletry bottles are highly convenient and "free", and that conditioner bottle that guys never use, is a great makeshift shaving gel!
What else... A water bottle, maybe a couple protein bars? Leatherman and off-bike earphones are in my jacket/pant pockets.
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Largely echo AnTyx. Kriega OS soft bags plus hard top box to lock away valuables and awkward shaped items like shoes. I tend to fill them all so no room for helmet or groceries. As a general rule all my clothes go in the larger side bag and tools, spares etc in the smaller one (asymmetric bags because the pannier racks are asymmetric). Dry bag strapped to back seat with camping and cooking gear.
That said, take half the gear you think you'll need and twice the money.
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That said, take half the gear you think you'll need and twice the money.
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You'll need the extra money to replace the stuff you left behind thinking that lighter weight equals 'pro adventuring', but then realise you can't do without. 
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[LIST][*] I ride with panniers and a top box. The topbox is mostly empty while I am riding: it is there to keep my helmet and gloves while I am off the bike. Anything that lives in the topbox must be small enough to either fit inside the helmet along with my gloves, or fit beside the helmet. So at a maximum, in my topbox I have a spare charging cable, my small electric air pump, and a folded canvas "emergency" backpack. Tested that all of these fit with my helmet in the topbox and it closes. Then, if I buy groceries for the evening etc., they can go in the topbox while my helmet is on my head, or in the emergency backpack
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All of that stuff (give or take some personal preference items) is what's packed onto my bike (the left hand one) in the picture above. We have a few more tools (as you'd expect with each of them being 52yrs old) and we're maybe a bit lighter on the electronics (the bikes have fairly rudimentary charging systems), but other than that it's much the same. Being a small bike it looks as though it's vastly overloaded but it would be hard to see how you could pare it down much if you intended to camp - unless you were intending to sleep in hedges and never cook. Load that lot onto my GoldWing and you'd hardly notice it (picture below) but it probably represents a current tech minimum.
I took the Yamaha on a 2 day trip down to Devon last weekend and by abandoning spare clothes and a few other bits managed to do it without the panniers (second picture), but that's hardly practical for a longer trip.
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That said, take half the gear you think you'll need and twice the money.
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The rule I once heard:
- Put all the items you think you need on a bed, and spread them out.
- Put all the cash you think you'll need on the bed as well.
- Now, take half the items and twice the money.
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- Put all the cash you think you'll need on the bed as well.
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Done
But might need more ...
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That's a lot of zeros - careful, I'm sure they all add weight!
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Probably waaaay too much….. 
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I'm with Snakeboy, probably way too much stuff but you should never underestimate what a good night's sleep does for you..!! Take what you think you need, we've been doing this for many years now, we should know the crack by now surely...!!! I like options so I take a tent and hammock, OS32's allow for this..
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