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If you are at all concerned please lobby Transport Secretary Lord Andrew Adonis at

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Personally I've alway wondered why L-plated riders are allowed out without supervision. the simple answer is, if you are a safe rider and have the right skills, then you will be able to pass the test and go on to continue your learning.

Some of the comments on the More Crap than News pages suggesting the CBT is enough, clearly shows that these people don't understand the hazards, risks and skills neccassary to ride in the UK.

I'm not fully for this, perhaps allowing L-plated riders to be supervised (like car drivers) by a rider with some years experience would be beter ??

It's nice to see an increase in the restricted power range though. This kind of power is more than enough to get yourself into trouble

With such disparate rules spread over Europe on what you can and can't ride, I can't see this every becoming law.

Just an opinion - and as we all know, they vary....

I posted on the CBT thread as well, but I've pondered a bit more with a coffee and this seems very weird. From what I've read (and it all seems to be the same article copied endlessly and only seems to be in the UK press) it seems to be that those with L-plates are somehow to be denied the right to ride alone.

Here in France and also it seems in Spain, Italy etc no-one needs L-Plates. In France there's two ways to ride without a bike test either a) ride a 50cc scooter/moped with something called a Brevet de Securité Routière (which is taught in school) or b) ride a 125cc on a standard full Category B car licence. Any other way needs a test of some kind.

So I'm wondering, if this is a Europe-wide thing, then it's only going to apply to countries where L-plates are used, which seems more than a little odd. Maybe it applies to the UK because of the seemingly unique way you can get on a 125cc without passing ANY test (bike or car) at all (apart from a CBT)?

Just had a look at the Motorcycle Industry Association webpage HERE, and there's nothing at all about this, which is odd given the reports say this has come from the MCIA.[/QUOTE]

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@GasUp
I know myself and a few other mates who are not bothered about riding bigger bikes, or carrying passengers or riding on motorways. So whats the point in passing a test? Plus it goes along the same line as Green Laning; motorcyclists are easy targets. Theres nothing about stopping the 17 year old t**ts who come screething around corners in stolen corsas.

@Alex
Yeah that was pretty weird, I had a feeling it was just a rumour or maybe a law being passed in the dead of night. Anyways, sod it. The weathers crap so im off to Scotland

interesting. when i was 16 tried my brothers Kawasaki (i think it was an AR) 50cc. At 17 went and bought a Yamaha RD 250 LC which would do about 105 mph. then proceeded to smash the bike and my body being a clever f***er taking a bend far to fast and way above my ability. stupid thing is i then got a Honda superdream Honda should have named it nightmare for the handling and did the same thing. my father pointed out it was not the bike but the bikers ability to know his limits and the bikes so he limited me to a yam dt 100 for 6 months then Kawasaki ke 175 then Suzuki gt 185, then to rd 250cc 400cc cb 550cc cbr 600cc gsxr 750cc and toped out with gsxr 1100. R1. now ride a ccm 650 xtz 750 and dr 250. so worked my way through the and believe i am a competent rider. if the 125 limit was i place then and graduating to bigger bike policy was in place i am sure i would not have had the accidents. but i agree you would not let anyone but L plates on a car and drive unsupervised. so i believe the correct way is to take a rider training course ex amount of hours or instructors to pass you to ride solo. i have been living in eastern Europe for the last 10 years and most counties have a mandatory hours of instruction then full bike test which comprises extensive theory and then police examiner to pass test. however here in Romania they have the highest bike fatality in Europe due to riders fault.
so does this prove it is just the individual.
but agree so of the best fun riding has been on small cc bikes.
mike.
remember a bike has one fundamental design problem, it will not stand up by itself.

Hey Mike. Yeah we have a CBT course to complete to ride alone on 125cc capacity. It stands for Compulsory Basic Training, and a lot believe its not sufficient education to let riders out on the road.

Training is to blame when it is to blame, likewise the individual. My first crash was because I dint know how to ride a manual as I had learnt on an Automatic. There is a serious flaw there!

But I should have made the jusgment not to wave at the nice lady, consequently letting my clutch out.

But...another but...killing off the solo L plater is not sufficient grounds to avoid more road fatalities, which is what were concerned about here. They could enforce us to wear decent gear; make jackets, gloves and boots law I dont mind, I wear them anyway, but a lot of scooter riders dont.

It is a shame that the first casualty of the "Motorcycle Vs Government" war is always a minority; L platers/Green Laners. Why dont we start with the nutters who take every corner with scant regard for safety on high CC sportsbikes???

Ironically I had a DVD arrive, I sent for it. "Great Roads and Great Rides 2". I have watched GRGR 1. Both DVDs talk about rider safety and such things. Focusing on sportbikers. The Highways Agency must think motorcycle=sportsbike.

Anyways, Peace and Love.