Agreeing to disagree
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Originally Posted by craig76
The emissions requirement as far as the MoT is concerned is on it's way. However, that and getting another 5mpg is kind of pointless given the huge number of imports from countries that are knocking out 125's and 50cc scoots as cheaply as possibly with total disregard for the environment.
Not sure sure about automatic gearboxes. If you don't know what gear you need to be in, you don't belong on a bike.
Totally agree on the useability of power. Try riding a late model Yamaha R6. It's all top end and you need to be dancing on the shift lever to the get the best out of it.
Exactly.
I sold an early R1 recently. Speaking to the customer, it was quite clear what he really wanted was the VFR800 he tried but the pose value of the R1 made the choice for him. Sad thing is, across a typical sunday bikers route, he would probably be quicker on the VFR. :confused1:
However, you could say the same about BMW GS buyers. There's loads of low milers around in immaculate condition. How many of them are bought as a pose and will never go further off road than a field on a campsite in which case, an R1200RT, Pan-European or even a Fazer would be a better choice.
Just thought I'd chuck that in before everyone starts pointing the finger at sportsbikers. 
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First off, sportbikers shouldn't feel uncomfortable or that anyone is pointing the finger at them. It could be argued that without them there might not be a motorcycle industry in the UK worth talking about.
The "extra 5mpg" quote is missing the point - these cheap imports will also be covered by the increased emissions regulations. As for emissions from the developing world - this will take longer but they can incorporate the current emissions technologies and take steps in the right direction. Those consumers will eventually demand it too.
"Autogearboxes", "know what gear you're in" - I thought we were grown-ups here. Sounds like a bit of biker-chauvanism here - real bikers use gears! Is this the tactic you use to sell your bikes? No wonder the motorcycle industry feel stagnant! I included that as an example of how innovation can improve accessibility for people new to biking. Without this change/innovation and others like it, motorcycling will cease to be relevant in the modern world and will die.
You are spot on about the bike-buying public's habits but rather than settle on sportsbikes being the zenith of motocycling and continuing to sell people the same irrelevant over-powered plastic crap 'lifestyle' we need to start talking about the future and enthusing the public with a cleaner, more-inclusive vision of biking. The car on my driveway bears no resemblance to an F1 car in the same way that I stopped believing the MotoGP/WSB are reliable/relevant enough to entrust the future of biking with.
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