[QUOTE=sushi2831;603395]Hello


Official sites about security are not usefull, to overprotective, read here in the hubb where and when someone travelled the "critical" countries.
Those countries are usually hard to get into, to get a visa.
Same goes for automobile clubs for infos about the CDP.


For the shipping I've linked the database from the hubb.
https://www.horizonsunlimited.com/get-ready/shipping
But at the moment it is broken, so only few a result:
"Please NOTE: Due to a Google change in the API, the system is partly broken - you can ONLY search Continent to Continent! We will get it fixed as soon as we can but it is a big deal. "


Sushi,

I looked into that link you sent me from hubb. It appears there are few options from South America into Africa, one is indeed from Brazil.

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I agree with you on the security issue being overblown, for the most part, you have to understand because of my professional background I am trained to always analyze my environment from a tactical perspective when I went into a country it was survival. I have seen people ripped to pieces from RPGs, small arms fire, and have had people in general commands around me kidnapped and tortured/murdered. I am hoping through my travels that my defensive mechanisms to violence and humanity will be weakened and I can see the world from the outside of an indoctrinated political ideology that is not so purely tactical or political in nature. I think it is easy for the general population to speak about conscious constructs such as peace and to view everyone or everything in a holistic perspective of cohabitating. Unfortunately, I have viscerally experienced the worst of our unconscious biological mechanisms of humanity and when those conscious constructs of humanity we use to cohabitate are deconstructed and all that is left is survival. You can not just release these defensive mechanisms from your mind once you experience them, you just lessen the responses so they are less acute. So if you never experienced that you will not appreciate the threats that exist out there until you see your own blood or someone else's as a subsequent response from those actions of survival. So when I start my planning process, my training and my experiences drive my conscious actions towards certain paths of those processes. Again my goal is to break away from this and to get on the ground objective opinions from people who have experienced large parts of the world themselves to prove me wrong hopefully so I can grow past what I hope are false barriers towards me connecting to something beyond my own ideology and mechanisms.

You are right on the State Department, they put their political barriers to what they asses as threats, these are sometimes very subjective in nature towards what is a threat. There may be threats to them because they are a target of political ideology, but towards the average drifter, they are probably not, because we are disconnected from that ideology.

On the shipping from Brazil to Morroco, I was doing research on that last night, I saw a few random threads on it, I don't know if it's possible either. Again I am putting information out there to be proved wrong or to steer me in the right direction towards my planning process.

You are right once you put it in perspective about renting a vehicle and flying to specific countries, now that I imagine that it seems quite arduous.

Finally, I understand your perspective or why you may seem disenchanted with some of my ignorance on certain subject matters and I understand. However, I do not have willful ignorance or a desire to stay ignorant in certain perspectives. That is why I am on here, I am checking factually what is true and not and I understand I need to alter my perception to connect the world around me. I don't mind being wrong, I am not insecure. Part of the journey is discovering myself and the world I live in, I am no so ignorant to think the way I perceive reality is the epitome of perspective.

Have a great trip


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Actually I meant as a shakedown before you go.

I found I dumped a fair bit of gear from my kit.

Just for a laugh - when two of Australia’s main explorers went off to find their way nth thorough the bush they took a Chinese gong with them to announce meal time.


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Thanks for the response, I agree with you 100%. I thought about that, I plan on doing some short overnight trips a few hours a few every other weekend for a few months before I leave to do my final adjustments on the bike. Less gear I carry to facilitate my journey the better!

A Chinese going? Man that is comical!

Hi Vagabond

Forgive me if I speak out of turn but if you are trying to deconstruct yourself, for want of a better phrase. Why not start somewhere less intimidating than South America or Africa. Might it not be easier to start with a trip to the port in America as a way of testing your gear and set up. Then ship to Europe for the summer and work your way round. I started a trip round the world once with a ticket to Bangkok and made the rest up as I went. There are so many options from Europe and making it up as you go might help. Take a rough idea of the thing that you want to see and work around them.

I found a report (attached) that is from this site: https://southamericabackpacker.com/s...erica-climate/

Per the hiking website, it says "These months have been selected based on a number of factors including, weather, temperatures, transport accessibility, prices, and overall attraction availability. However, with countries so vast in size, all of these things vary hugely from one end to another."

I will research the validity of this chart, but I figure backpacking chart would correlate closely to what I am doing on a motorcycle, being exposed to the elements constantly.

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So I went to the state departments website to find the security threats for South America and Africa. South America looks pretty hospitable, besides Venezuela which is obviously restricted.

Africa has a lot more concerns shipping from South America to Africa, it almost seems like it might be better to ship into Morrocco from Brazil and once in Morrocco if I have locations I wish to see specifically in Africa, I can fly into the specific locations and rent a vehicle, I am not sure it's worth riding through high-risk areas alone. From Morroco, I can plan around the seasons to start my way to Europe and beyond.

So the first phase tentatively could be South America starting September 2020, I could arrange the shipment of the bike ahead of time so I can start in September in accordance with the seasons.

So after looking at the map from limited research, I see a possible way to see South America in the following order:

1. Columbia - Ship the bike in here from Florida. I will have to avoid the raining season which is October and November.

2. Ecuador - From Columbia ride in and the weather in September through November is good.

3. Peru - From Ecuador ride in and the weather in September through March is good.

4. Bolivia - From Peru ride in, but raining seasons starts in November, so I want to be there and out prior to that.

5. Chile - From Bolivia ride in and the weather from September through February is good.

6. Argentina - From Chile ride in and the weather is good from September through February.

7. Uruguay - From Argentina ride in and the weather is good from September through December.

8. Paraguay - From Uruguay ride in and the weather is good September through March.

9. Brazil - From Paraguay ride in and the weather is good September through March. I can ship the bike from Brazil to Morocco in northwest Africa.

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