At £75000 that's £267.85 per day for 40 days sorry but that's nuts
In europe £30 per day tops so where doe's asia come in £20 or £15 per day
and the most important thing is you go where you want.
sounds like a bunch of rich twats to me talking about there mid life crisis and how much money they made from banking
Sorry but i think i would end up hanging one of them from a tree somewhere in afiica.Good luck to Kevin and Julia if there's prats willing to pay that much well done
Happy biking

.. AND have an unlimited supply of 95 octane gasoline/petrol .. surely? :confused1:



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Ted, I enjoyed your post and idea, but to be honest, I think that the people willing you join you towards Magadan would be other fellow riders not willing to pay. I'm sure you would have great fun, but I'm nor sure thew'd pay for it.

If you consider that option, why don't you try to guide tours with Edelweiss or any other? You will make money, will know better the business, the needs and will be sure you don't want to hang any annoying customer after two weeks. But especially the last one. After that, you may settle on your own.

GB tours sound expensive, but after having seen one DVD by Globeriders and see their hotels, meals and hassle-free ride, apart from the fact of becoming and adventurous guy featuring in a DVD, I don't think it is that crazy expensive. Just hand your passport and bike (and $$$) and you'll be riding the Silk Road as you commute home, just your gear.

Kevin and Helge deserve to make their money, and have achieved things that justify their "price". If you want to ride alongside Charly Boorman will cost you big bucks; just up to you as well. I've only met one tour guide, Jens, the HU Germany meeting organizer and seen one presentation he made. If I had the money and little time, no doubt I would join any tour he may lead, because it would certainly be great fun. He does well his job and deserves to be accordingly well paid.

So, for me it is totally ok if you want to pay 75000GBP, for whatever reason, no time to prepare it, no interest, don't like to go alone, want a great sleep every night... Just go for it and enjoy it, it's your money, just spend it as you like it. It may only bother me if after that trip you want to teach in the pub what "adventure riding" is. Share your experience, I'd be happy to listen and learn, but please be humble, modest, don't pretend to be an explorer. You are not. Although after seeing some profiles in that DVD, I suspect it may not always be the case.

£75,000 ...
... would save the lives of 3,125 orphans in Africa.

Just thought I'd mention it.

...is, frankly a rubbish debating tactic.

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It's a fact David- not a tactic and perhaps, before you cast the first stone,
( too late) you might want to do a little research... then tell us how you are helping. Daydreaming, is, of course, an easier path to travel-

Ad hominem is also a rubbish debating tactic, so no thanks.

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oh so predictable! good job this is the 'Bar'!

Leaving aside the question of how precisely you determine the life of an African child is worth £25...

The reason your post is, in this context, irrelevant, is that it leads to the question "so how many African children does one have to save before it's acceptable to go on one of these tours to relax?" What if Bill Gates fancied a bit of guided adventure? How many children do any of us have to save before we're allowed to spend more modest amounts on travelling? How many children did you save before indulging in the unnecessary expense of buying a computer and an internet connection with which to question the morality of people you know nothing about (including, it seems, me).

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I'm sure Globebusters split their profit with Oxfam!

Erm...Why on earth do you think David would want to help, Not everyone sets out to save the planet, you know.

If I had to consider how many children in Africa my money spent on hobbies and leisure would save... no, please, don't make me feel that bad. I just try to be honest and coherent and take others into consideration.

Don't ask me either how much I polute when riding and how many trees that money spent in fuel would plant, please. Let's do not make us all feel any more guilty.

PS: The guy spending 75000GBP may still be a great and generous fella (sure he is, he's paying a few pints!).

Actually, I'm struggling to understand why you would mention this? So every time any of us go on vacation, or indeed, spend any money at all, we should calculate how many AOEs ("African Orphan Equivalents") were expended? Every time I go out in Moscow I spend at least 2-3 AOEs, god forbid I go on vacation somewhere and spend several hundred.

The cost of your motorcycle would probably save the lives of a few hundred African orphans, so why have you not sold it already and donated the proceeds to the cause? And you could probably move into a smaller or less convenient apartment to contribute additional AOEs, have you done so?

I really don't get why everyone feels the need, or feels they have the right, to comment on how other people spend their money? For some people, anyone who has a motorcycle is unimaginably rich, and so?

Perhaps 'AOE's is the new currency ?


Every other week watching football costs me 1.4 AOE !

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I think most "proper adventure riders", whatever they are, if they had 75k would spend two years on the road with 50k and the rest on hookers and blow for the farewell party.

Wouldn't they?