...John Major's parents were in the circus but John Major himself is the only recorded example of a man who ran away from the circus to become an accontant.

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The malign influence of the EU extends to Africa also. The Common Agricultural Policy and it's massive subsidies creates huge surpluses which are then exported to Africa with further export subsidies. Local (African) farming is further rendered uneconomic by swinging EU import tariffs of up to 28%. In combination this makes food in the UK much more expensive, estimated at about $1000 per family per year than free trade would otherwise allow. This is actual cash, each year we have been in the EU and each year we remain in the EU and not the fictitious amounts the remainers "project fear" spuriously say we would be worse off by 2030 if we leave.

A by-product of this madness, since the land cannot sustain these now poverty stricken Africans they do what I would do in their place, seek a better life in Europe...but are met with tear gas and batten wealding EU border forces.


And we should remain in the EU why???

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I returned to the UK about a week ago after travelling in 3-4 countries of mainland Europe for various durations over 3 weeks.

After a week back here I have yet to see any UK TV news coverage of this item which was reported on many continental channels during my travels.
“Nuit Debout”: Dawn of a French Style [Color] Revolution? | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization

Funny that.

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Dave

Possibly because its of little interest to the UK?

Just watched 'Them or Us' on BBC2. One hour exposé of European politics. Should be required viewing by all voters.

The programme showed a clip of Nigel Farage in action in the European Parliament and I must say I have a new-found admiration for him, watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dranqFntNgo

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Farage became one of the best if not the best member of the European Parliament. He is articulate and logic. Knows how to make an argument starting with its premises, their development and ends with the logic conclusion.

I watched a few of his speeches from over the years from the EU parliament & agree completely.

Nothing wrong with being "part of Europe" but not ruled by it.

Mezo.

and here lies the problem!

Wayne

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The offiicial campaigns in the UK have made no effort to address such key issues so far.
They really do need to up their games and deal with the difficult questions rather than the economic speculation/guessimation that says what might happen in 15 years from now (in reality they don't know what is happening next week, especially with the current laissez-faire approach to the UK economy).

Meanwhile, units of the Netherlands army have been taken under command of German units as part of the effort to stand up new EU armed forces.

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Dave

I post something up about this staying in or leavening. We are still getting post in the way of in or out. Listen to what the man say's. He is saying, if you vote to leave, it's a mandate to reapply under better terms. So this in out vote. Is not will we stay in or stay out. If it's in, we stay in, if it's out we will re-join. So what ever way you look at it. We are in for the long road.


Sorry to disappoint the permit out people. It's a politician your talking to. Not a normal human.
John933

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To buy petrol in Europe. Pull up at station. Wait. Get out a 20 Euro note, then ask someone to fill up the bike. Give person money. Ride away. Simple.

Vote Brexit to end food banks, close tax havens, end FPTP, close the House of Lords, smash the Murdock/Barcley/Rothemere/Desmond press, kick out all the Eurotrash. Gove and Borris will be in charge for the next four years. It will be FANTASTIC! Free for all down the pub with Farange. What's not to like? Brexit will make Britian GREAT again.

Y'all should do what the POTUS tells you an vote again that there cesession from that there union.

Anyhoo, ain't you limeys more interested in how them Lie-sester Tigers are doing in that So-car superbowl?

Cletus

Well, even the POTUS is human - if you cut me do I not bleed?
But, virtually all politicians do display psychotic facets to their personalities.

As for events of the past twenty four hours:

The POTUS dude arrives straight out of the heart of Wahhabism darkness (his previous port of call before setting foot on UK soil) to deliver an homily to the Brits about our own best interests.
With not a trace of irony to be found.


About this WW1/WW2 thing: in both cases the USA ensured that Europe bled itself into the mud of the battlefields before deploying any troops into the fight, so that they would then have a seat at the table for the post-war arrangements.
Fair enough; that is what nations do – look after their own interests only.
Round 1 brought the USA forward as an emerging world power and round 2 finished off the job; since 1945 it has been their job to police the world and we can all make our own call about how that has been handled.


During the earlier part of WW2 while the USA sat on its' hands they contributed 50 very old, obsolete “lend lease” ships to the British war effort at enormous price in their use of UK real estate.
Nations have no friends, just national interests.



For WW2, Stalin did much the same thing, but contributed far more in blood to the victory of that war over Nazi Germany; did he care? Nope.


So, the dude who is leaving office tries to sell his own particular vision of history as some kind of special relationship with his own country that requires the UK to kowtow to the European Commission in perpetuity.

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Back of the queue for trade deals with the USA? No problem. As TWB said, we can always do a trade agreement with Canada. That should replace the EU nicely.

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