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View Poll Results: Should Britain leave the E.U. ?
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I was veering on the out campaign because of the mess of the EU and I think the UK would relish the challenges without it.

Then I saw the government for what it was and realised that I don't trust a single one of them to look after what us important to me. Mainly human rights and environmental concerns.

I just don't trust our government to operate without the policing of the EU.

So I'll probably vote in.


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Human Rights, its that kind of crap that is ruining the country. It takes forever to get rid of unwelcome guests...How long and hows much did it cost use to deport 'The Hook' due to him using Human Rights from Europe?
We can still have our own rights just with no one else having a say in it

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The European Court of Human Rights is not an EU institution. It's part of the Council of Europe. You want to leave that too?
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I was veering on the out campaign because of the mess of the EU and I think the UK would relish the challenges without it.

Then I saw the government for what it was and realised that I don't trust a single one of them to look after what us important to me. Mainly human rights and environmental concerns.

I just don't trust our government to operate without the policing of the EU.

So I'll probably vote in.


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Who can blame you - dodgy Dave and his crew are not to be trusted but there will be many Governments during your lifetime and perhaps one of them will have policies you want to vote for. The EU Commission is for life and you will never have the option to vote on their directives.

One quick example of the EU abuse of Africa's environment and human rights; the CAP adds Euro 1000 to the annual EU family food bill, creates surpluses which are disposed of (dumped) using EU subsidies in Africa at prices rendering African agriculture unviable causing poverty, instability, animal poaching and mass migrations to Europe where the EU border force greets them with tear gas and battons.

Your choice but I hope even for their and Africa's sakes you vote leave.
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The European Court of Human Rights is not an EU institution. It's part of the Council of Europe. You want to leave that too?
Yes...if it means we can get rid of undesirables quicker

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Yes...if it means we can get rid of undesirables quicker

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Lack of democracy, and transparency
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the European Commission is "for ever" and completely unelected.

An interesting view point from TV tonight.
Neil Kinnock was rejected by the UK voters twice but then went off to the EU and took on powers that over-ride the UK parliament.
(he is not unique in this regard).
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I just don't trust our government to operate without the policing of the EU.
I can't see how you square that with the election of a new government each and every 5 years Vs the "quangos" of the Commissioners of the E Commission.

As it happens, I do think that governments should not have an automatic right to a full 5 year term and they got away with a "fast one" when that was brought into being - but it is a matter for the UK parliament to sort out that one.

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Winston Churchill just turned in his grave.
Some how I can not see Winston Churchill wanting to spend millions of pounds keeping these people in the country. Feeding, Clothing, housing, health, then plotting against us, oh and then spend millions more fighting to stay in the country they don't like because its cushy.
So if it means pulling out then Yeah.
At the end of the day if they don't like it they can always leave..or not come in the first place

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Where is the EU heading?
With respect to where the EU has come from and where it is intending to go over the next few years (a policy of "ever closer union" and 4-5 new member nations).
“Problems cannot be solved with the same mind set that created them.”

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Finally someone has made me consider voting to stay. If the Trump reccomends Brexit I'm thinking about doing the opposite.

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Do you Trust this man and his fellow remaniacs?
...his own words from his own mouth:-

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Moving along ..................
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Who can blame you - dodgy Dave and his crew are not to be trusted but there will be many Governments during your lifetime
For anyone who has been following these cases over the past 3 months, it was announced today that at least 7 police forces in the UK have started criminal investigations.
http://www.electionexpenses.co.uk/

Criminal prosecutions of sitting conservative MPs could follow + by-election re-runs of any affected seats.
The current government majority is 12.
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Finally someone has made me consider voting to stay. If the Trump reccomends Brexit I'm thinking about doing the opposite.

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Its the best thing Trump has said since he started bumping his lips all those months ago

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Brexit: The (animated) Movie
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Its the best thing Trump has said since he started bumping his lips all those months ago

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