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View Poll Results: Should Britain leave the E.U. ?
Yes 109 50.00%
No 46 21.10%
No.. But things MUST change 38 17.43%
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For some reason many people think so. But that is not the wording of the treaties and never has been. The basis is article 45 (if my memory serves me right) of the Treaty of the Functioning of the European Union with regulamentation done with several minor directives.

As I said, you can not even register as a resident in several countries these days without having a job nor have medical care other than for emergencies, etc, etc. Now, you can go and stay in a country without being a resident, yes, you can, for it's hard to show for how long you have been in the country. But in most, without having a registration number your life will be very hard. Even to open a non-resident bank account you will have trouble these days.

In any event you can read the link below for a brief explanation.

https://www.opensocietyfoundations.o...eedom-movement
I had no idea.... I've never heard that. But I'm naive to the politics of Europe.

My girlfriend is Italian and she came to the UK three years ago. She never had any restrictions or problems. After two years she became a resident. She pays more tax than I ever have and as a medical professional, she contributes more than I ever have to society. If we leave Europe, she may have to leave too. That makes no sense to me. Personal feelings aside.
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I had no idea.... My girlfriend is Italian and she came to the UK three years ago. She never had any restrictions or problems. After two years she became a resident. She pays more tax than I ever have and as a medical professional, she contributes more than I ever have to society. If we leaves Europe, she may have to leave too. That makes no sense to me. Personal feelings aside.
Why would she need to leave? She is already a resident of the United Kingdom. I strongly doubt that existing rights would be revoked in case of an exit.

Hey, people move from country to country in the rest of the world outside the EU! :-)
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Why would she need to leave? She is already a resident of the United Kingdom. I strongly doubt that existing rights would be revoked in case of an exit.

Hey, people move from country to country in the rest of the world outside the EU! :-)
Sorry.. She's a resident. Not a citizen. Without the EU she has no right to be here.


Outside of Europe, I can't live and work anywhere without sponsorship or money to invest..
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Sorry.. She's a resident. Not a citizen. Without the EU she has no right to be here.
As I said, I strongly doubt that by exiting the EU existing rights are revoked. She already has the right to reside in the UK so I strongly doubt that, at least while she has a job, her residence is revoked. Now, others who want to go and live there or vice-versa it will depend on the agreement that the UK reaches with the EU on that particular. In a worst case scenario and provided that the EU keeps in existence people who want to live in the UK coming from other European countries and vice-versa are treated like any other nationals.


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Outside of Europe, I can't live and work anywhere without sponsorship or money to invest..
It varies from country to country but the general rule is that inmigrants are allowed according to the needs of the host country. What, as a matter of fact, seems to me to be the right thing to do.

In any event, I repeat myself, that particular will depend on the agreements reached by the UK with the EU during the exit negotiations. And, of course, provided that the EU still keeps alive. Norway and Switzerland are not part of the EU but are part of the free movement of persons.
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