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View Poll Results: Should Britain leave the E.U. ?
Yes 109 50.00%
No 46 21.10%
No.. But things MUST change 38 17.43%
I don't care 14 6.42%
Undecided 11 5.05%
Voters: 218. This poll is closed

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How funny is that, just been watching a programme on TV about what the last poster mentioned, removal of the southern flag. You seriously have some nutty fucxxrs over there. Regardless of the issues in this country and the eu,, if someone stood outside one of our government buildings waving a nazi flag yelling sieg heil and white power they would get the shxt kicked out of them by all in sundary regardless of race or creed. and hopefully the local,plod would let go of them at the top of the stairs to the cells.
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How funny is that, just been watching a programme on TV about what the last poster mentioned, removal of the southern flag. You seriously have some nutty fucxxrs over there. Regardless of the issues in this country and the eu,, if someone stood outside one of our government buildings waving a nazi flag yelling sieg heil and white power they would get the shxt kicked out of them by all in sundary regardless of race or creed. and hopefully the local,plod would let go of them at the top of the stairs to the cells.
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Anglo French relations in autumn 1940 were indeed bad. My Grandfather was part of the cavalry division in Palestine and actually charged the French on horseback. More 1855 than 1940. This as the highlight of a military career than included time in the citadel in Cairo. He said the Sean Connery film" the hill" was accurate enough, in a toned down so as not to make you throw up sort of way. The old boy said motorbikes and going abroad would get me killed


Back on topic I think this will divide the generations. Many who got to vote for the EEC feel cheated it wasn't just a trade deal. My generation feel cheated we didn't get to vote before. The youngsters don't care, they never knew life before the EU. The timing of the vote is critical, Jacques Delors would have got a 90% out vote, if they'd left it until 2025 the turn out would have been less than for the usual European stuff.

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Shrek I probably was, but I'm guessing there were a hell of alot of people trying to get at them, if similar demos elsewhere are any indication.
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. The old boy said motorbikes and going abroad would get me killed


Back on topic I think this will divide the generations. Many who got to vote for the EEC feel cheated it wasn't just a trade deal. My generation feel cheated we didn't get to vote before. The youngsters don't care, they never knew life before the EU. The timing of the vote is critical, Jacques Delors would have got a 90% out vote, if they'd left it until 2025 the turn out would have been less than for the usual European stuff.

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I got told many times (late 60's /early 70's) that going abroad on a motorbike would get me killed. I wasn't sure whether I should have been looking out for leftover Nazis still hiding out in the mountains, Japanese style, or whether it was going to be the formless and lawless void that constituted everywhere other than half a dozen countries of the empire and (possibly) the USA. that would get me. I'm still not sure about the USA

Re the "outs" being older and vici versa, I know it's not Mori but a straw poll I did last night at the over 60's keep fit club I instruct at had a majority in favour of staying in. OK it's only 10 or 15 people but even so there would seem to be some element of "age shall not weary them" when it comes to this stuff. Presumably post referendum they'll do some kind of breakdown as to how different groups voted and it'll be interesting to see if there was an age divide.
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as close as it gets?
I mentioned before I do believe it is an age thing with older people more likely to want to leave the EU than the younger ones. Here is a link to a government PDFwhich attempts to profile age, social clas and education levels of those wanting to stay in and those wanting to leave. It is by no means comprehensive or conclusive as any poll in the run up to the general election in the UK this year proves. Enjoy.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...qCykQQ&cad=rja
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. Here is a link to a government PDFwhich attempts to profile age, social clas and education levels of those wanting to stay in and those wanting to leave. It is by no means comprehensive or conclusive as any poll in the run up to the general election in the UK this year proves. Enjoy.

https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...qCykQQ&cad=rja

Quite a comprehensive and interesting read. Somewhere near the bottom there's a section on in / out by political party support and it seems that 10% (a rough average of the different polls) of UKIP voters want to stay in. Now that's a section of the electorate that really knows their mind.

Having spent a while as a doorstep pollster (asking about all sorts of stuff, not just politics) it surprises me that the polls get as close as they do. A good percentage of the people I interviewed would be "don't knows" on just about every topic unless you pushed them, and then they'd just pick one of the offered alternatives at random.
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and what has NATO or anyone in the EU done to protect our borders? Nothing, they did a bit of shouting and did some sanctions. Even the US was not bothered, maybe because it was in Europe or maybe because there is no oil? I know the Ukraine is not a member of NATO or the EU but it is still part of mainland Europe and not Russia.
A couple of items.

Russia has long standing interests and claims in the Crimea in much the same way that Britain has interests in, say, the Falkland Islands or Gibraltar.
Nor am I equating these examples but just pointing out that territorial disputes are rarely clear cases.

As a politicial alliance, NATO carries out diplomacy and has diplomats at ambassador level within it's HQ.
The EU is embryonic in this field in comparison which is why they, the commission basically, would wish to raise a standing military force; there has been some movement toward this aim very recently with the raisiing of a border control force with international staff, deployable anywhere in Europe with or without the permission of the home nation.
I believe that "force" is now in place in Greece.


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Quite a comprehensive and interesting read.
Having spent a while as a doorstep pollster (asking about all sorts of stuff, not just politics) it surprises me that the polls get as close as they do. A good percentage of the people I interviewed would be "don't knows" on just about every topic unless you pushed them, and then they'd just pick one of the offered alternatives at random.
Some irony therein in the light of yesterday's report about the pollsters take on May 2015.
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How funny is that, just been watching a programme on TV about what the last poster mentioned, removal of the southern flag. You seriously have some nutty fucxxrs over there. Regardless of the issues in this country and the eu,, if someone stood outside one of our government buildings waving a nazi flag yelling sieg heil and white power they would get the shxt kicked out of them by all in sundary regardless of race or creed. and hopefully the local,plod would let go of them at the top of the stairs to the cells.

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Unfortunately we do not have stairs leading to the cells in general lmao


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