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View Poll Results: Should Britain leave the E.U. ?
Yes 109 50.00%
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No.. But things MUST change 38 17.43%
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Cameron has turned his back on almost every other pre-election promise so why would the referendum be any different.
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Cameron has turned his back on almost every other pre-election promise so why would the referendum be any different.
So you are saying that he won't hold a referendum???

I'm no dyed-in-the-wool Tory, so I had to google this for you, but here's a helpful link to the Conservative Manifesto so you can check the accuracy of what you just wrote...

(I did the link in Cameron Blue rather than my normal Corbyn red)
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So you are saying that he won't hold a referendum???

I'm no dyed-in-the-wool Tory, so I had to google this for you, but here's a helpful link to the Conservative Manifesto so you can check the accuracy of what you just wrote...

(I did the link in Cameron Blue rather than my normal Corbyn red)
I certainly hope he does. But it's not beyond comprehension that it will be delayed or cancelled with some bullsh*t reason. Or perhaps severely watered down in some way.

A manifesto pledge is just a half arsed promise to gain votes in my opinion. There is no legal obligation for them to hold a referendum is there ? He's not going to be re-elected so he's got nothing to loose. He's got 500 Million in the bank to ease his conscience.

But please correct me if I'm wrong. I'm the first to admit that I'm no political guru.

There is no doubt in my mind that there is already a contingency plan with a room full of spin doctors already in full preparation for that scenario.

Here's a link for some other broken pledges.

[url=http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/yvette-cooper/election-promises-broken_b_7949232.html]Nine Broken Promises From the First 100 Days of This Conservative Government

I haven't checked it's accuracy. You're doing such a good job of that. I don't want to ruin your fun
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This one is too big to avoid. The con will be pictures of princess Charlotte and a puppy the day they announce it, the repeat votes in2018, 19 & 20 until we get it right etc.

The Euro trough is too big for them to avoid. Heck it's even managed to keep our rejects like Kinnock, etc. in luncheon vouchers when even the UN wouldn't have them. They aren't going to set their pension pot on fire when the only alternative is waiting for God in the House of Lords.

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There is no legal obligation for them to hold a referendum is there
For sure, politicos lie through their teeth - it is in the job description and their training - but in this case I seem to recall that a bill went through parliament for this one, some time ago perhaps??

Isn't that why it is constantly said that the referendum must occur by the end of 2017? 'Cos that is what the law says at present.

Anyone see a pattern appearing in the Jap statistics by the way??


A couple of more stats from the original link:

Japan has about twice the population, in rounded figures, but 3 times as many privately owned vehicles.

Their built up areas are 20% of land use, but ours is only 13%.
So, we might only have to build on another 7% of the UK to accommodate another 20 million workers (the earlier figure to match Japans' head of population to the total land area).
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Slightly off topic but this is to do with helping mitigate the housing crisis brought on by EU and non-EU migration.

I know the green belt is supposed to be sacrosanct and I appreciate there's some way to go with redeveloping brownfield sites, but I can't help thinking we need something really big to kickstart the solution to the housing crisis. There's no point building houses where there's no jobs, so in my mind one part of the solution is to move tens of thousands of government and other jobs out of London to new cities built on the green belt.

One site could be the fenland farmland south of Peterborough between Yaxley and Sawtry. It's on the main east coast rail line from London to Edinburgh and is next to the A1(M) so the complex transport infrastructure is already in place. There's even a small airfield at Connington (ex RAF Glatton) that could be extended back to its wartime runway lengths.

What government departments could be moved? How's about the Ministry of Defence in Whitehall for starters?

A similar suggestion from an MP for the Birmingham area: Move Government departments out of London and into the Midlands
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He's not going to be re-elected so he's got nothing to loose
I have voted both Labour and Conservative and to be quite honest even my neighbours dog would be better to have in than Corbyn, god help use if he gets his claws in

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The KGB offered Michael Foot a job when he had naff all chance of picking anything else up. He was also in with a chance in Scotland. I doubt either opportunity will be offered to Corbyn!

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