"White UK-born people"

What's your point there Tim? You seem to use that statistic rather liberally and with a negative spin without really saying why you find it a nuisance? Are you referring to the non-UK born but "white" people, i.e. The hundreds of thousands of Irish and Americans, (though many of them could be "non-White"). I'm a quarter Black though you'd never know it from me being a ginger- where would I fit in? Should we differentiate between pure white and mostly white? I never understood these sorts of classifications and to be honest I think they are as abused as they are arbitrary. Maybe you could expand on that?

A short read about the FSA is quite revealing, who was funding it and how it was politically supported, etc. You're emphasis on legally was noted. The west have been after Assad for a while and I believe the 3 million or so refugees are a direct result of western intervention. NATO et al and whoever is running the show behind it are allowed to destroy counties and cause untold death, misery and suffering, the political frontmen are reshuffled and the war machine rumbles on.

Before the funding and arming of the FSA Syria was one of the most developed and progressive counties in the Middle East. It will take generations to overcome the destruction. Now it's just the latest stage in an absurd and unnecessary theatre of war between Iran, Russia and the West and Gulf States.

For whose benefit and interest does this new model of boarder less and never ending war suit? Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Yemen (note the near total media black out!) and now Syria. It's totally depressing, and yet after decades of bombing the Middle East the newest and best solution is more of the same. All for resources which we can no longer afford to use.


For me there is a lot of hyperbole and simple bias dressed up as intellectual debate - little in the way of facts or analysis. It's mostly as simple as EU is bad and must go. But why? The reason is mostly because it 'doesn't work', though it's not said why. Will the UK, Europe or the world be a better place without the EU? If so why? It's all strawman - attacks on the EU itself as an institution and little about the actual policies, laws or regulation which it enacts.

I think you possibly had a different word in mind than 'liberally' (open to new ideas, broad-minded, generous, etc.).

What's my point? It's that the original population of London (compared, say, to the days of WWII) is becoming a minority. Did I say it was a nuisance? Er... no. Did I give it a negative spin? Again, no.

It was an observation. Have a read of the 2011 census.

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"For sheer delight there is nothing like altitude; it gives one the thrill of adventure
and enlarges the world in which you live," Irving Mather (1892-1966)

I get the impression that you may not be aware of the interview in the link below.
It is relevant to the points you make above and I have underlined the most relevant.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/we-re-g...udan-iran/5166

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