What's lacking about his 'moral fiber'? - can you point out what he said which compromised or was counter to his 'moral fibre' - and since when has deciding EU membership been a moral decision? What's it got to do with morality? I have to say Walkabout you are prone to using a lot of emotive and loaded language while being rather short on facts and evidence - maybe you ought to consider journalism as a day job.

For me he basically says the EU is bad and needs improvement but the alternative is worse, i.e. An unfettered, unaccountable and arguably undemocratic system we have now which would be strengthened by EU withdrawal. I largely agree on this having a very cynical view on UK 'democracy' and believing the greater the checks and balances on power the better.

His main point is on the environment and public health and how the EU still has some teeth left between enforcing power for the public good and corporate power - where as the UK government is completely acquiescent to special interests.

The point he refers to would be;

EU legislation on air pollution;

http://www.theguardian.com/environme...-air-pollution

The European Drinking Water Directive;

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drin...ater_directive

And I think I'd add my own example of how the EU didn't bow down to big agribusiness like Monsanto and banned the use of clothianidin, imidacloprid and thiametoxam for two years to observe the effect of the bee pollution in Europe. Our government in all it's wisdom lobbied hard against it!

https://www.rt.com/news/bee-eu-pesticides-ban-750/

So it's legislation like this I would largely be voting for as I think the UK ruling class must be diluted as much as possible. In the current global system I think we need the EU and the benefit of membership far exceed its costs - and - I include immigration in this. I think the UK is a better country with immigration than without.

Incidentally I think most people's fear and hatred of the EU seems to flow from immigration. I don't think immigration within the EU is the problem and nor will it go away with the EU itself. For me the hypocrisy with the British is especially foul - that we're all up for bombing the Middle East back to the Middle Ages on 'humanitarian' grounds but when the millions of displaced from the counties who've had the NATO treatment who turn up, we're not so humanitarian after all. Note the Dublin Convention.