I came across this recipe book yesterday…and was intrugued but saddened. Anybody have a chance to take a peek at it?


Haynes Adventure Motorcycling Feature



Based on the website and PDF's, it seems that Adventure Motorcycling could become just a Holiday

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They could re-title it "I really want to be Ewan and Charlies really Special Friend" from what I've seen . (Not wishing to start that one again, it's just the first re-title I could think of to put it in the context of this "adventure" toys bandwagon we seem to have going). All pictures of large trail bikes with tin boxes and laser cut thingies to stop your sat phone falling off when you ride unsupported to Bournemouth or Scarborough .

If you are going to buy your kit from a catalogue and ride where your mates did last year with the same tour company and stay in the same hotel, it is a holiday even if they do offer you the chance to ride on mud for a bit.

If you hop on a C90, ride where ever you fancy and talk to real people along the way you'll have an adventure even if you never leave Britain.

I'm sure there are a lot of stages in between and I hope everyone enjoys whatever they do and whatever they call it. I just really think we don't need the tin boxed, sat-phone equipped band wagon that IMHO some of the current crop of books represent.

Andy

Edit to add: How the heck can you have a "Typical Adventure"? If it's an adventure it's not ****ing typical!!!!

The guy introduced himself on here asking for help...

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...ghlight=haynes

Can't help thinking that someone writing a book claiming to be a definitive guide to bike travel, would have included more photos from their own experiences, instead of resorting to BMW/KTM/Touratwat marketing material.

And from that topic...

Everyone else seems to be cashing in on it so why not? 1000 places would make it the size of, well, a coffee table book.

Each rider/author could write a 1000 word article about one specific place they went to on their route and the roads travelled complete with maps and photos. You could follow that with a brief sub-article about the author themselves, the bike they took and maybe their top 10 useful tips (excluding the bleeding obvious) for anyone thinking about a similar trip.

I'd buy it.

Two thoughts;

1. Places are special, but so are times. Best place I ever went was Berlin. Why so special? The wall came down the month before. No point putting that in a book of places, nice as modern Berlin is. There are people too.

2. Based on the above, would you like your favourite place to have a pay-and-display installed so the locals can still get to the shops and all those 15 bike parties from the GS Club/RAT/HOG/Etc. etc. can tick it off in their book?

I really, really prefer people to simply talk. Ask me about a trip, tell me you might be near part of it, then I'll tell you where a good place to eat could be.

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Andy

Point taken. Scrap that idea.

Is it any different to all the books on 4 wheel driving adventures?

I'm not worried about this at all - there always have been,and always will be, such books / journals. Frankly speaking, I've now gone to the point / age in my life where I really am not concerned about what others do or think when they travel.

Adventure motorcycling is just a holiday for some - an opportunity to go out with a group of mates and all have a good time together.

Being the misanthrope that I am, I eschew group travel as I believe being part of a group of travellers takes away from, rather than enhances, the travel experience.

However, by its very nature, travel by motorcycle does encourage a more solitary experience.

Garry from Oz.

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Here's the one for the street-sportsbike riders:

Product: Sport Riding Techniques

Andy

thats the book that bought me to this fine website!! read it a couple of times. its got nice pictures and a really good forward by ted simon. buttttttttt, the recommended bikes are all state of the art adventures (gs, pegasso, v strom, amazonas) and the 'equip ur bike' is practically a touratech catalouge, and it doesnt really explain the 'fiddly' bits, like "hey you need Z, Y and Z at a border, unless your in this certain country where a couple of bottles of single malt will do....). It deffinately brings adventure motorcycling to the masses of people who are E+C wanabees (live and let live) but personally, theres a reason I only read it twice, and its now at the bottom of a pile of bike magazines (dont judge me lol). Dan and ted showed me the real light, and finishing Jupiters was like nothing else I had experienced; it put me on a high, really!

Ignoring the lack of sense this sentence makes - if someone needs telling that different 'adventures' will involve different geography and encounters, should they really be given the keys to a bike?

Quote:

Adventure Motorcycling will inspire, enthuse, invigorate and enable everyone - expert and novice alike - to undertake a motorcycle adventure with confidence.

I am not enthused. I don't think it will be replacing Kerouac, Hunter S. and Greene as the inspiration on my shelves.
And why do the experts need to re-learn how to do it with confidence?

Live and let live, some people like to buy the shiny bike, and accessorise it with the coffee table books and t-shirts. I suppose it gives an opening to tell Tarquin and Roberta how arduous that solo, unsupported trip to the toilet was when they come around.

It doesn't worry me re: the future of adventure motorcycling, the world is a big place, there's space for all of us.

Birdy

One problem I've noticed here in the state is that many people want to be seen as living the lifestyle. That was evident with the SUV binge from the past 10 years. Why did folks need an SUV? I have no clue except that hey did look cool.

I mean, I have a truck. It hauls my bikes when I need it to. It's practicle.

Now with the bike market... geez... hate to drop a bomb here but I give kudos to BMW for convincing every Tom, Dick, and Harry that they too can be an Adventure Rider if they bought a GS! From my experiences, 90% of all GS's are still on the road. Tarmac. Asphalt. Whatever you wish to call it.

Another point is on how lazy, and lack of dreaming, folks have. There are gaggles of morons want to ride the exact same route you have if you post it somewhere on the web. They don't want to do the research, they don't want to follow a dream, they don't want an adventure. They want someone elses.

To me it's always been about a dream. A dream of far away places. Where books read in childhood come to life. Where exotic places you've seen in National Geographic are tangible.

Adventure is a state of mind, be it a weekend or a longtrip. It's what you find along the way. Today's society is more concerned with the end result (destination) than the process which gets us there (travel). The adventure isn't in the destination. It's what you did on your way to where you are. It's the ultimate metaphor on life itself.

Too many riders today don't understand that.

That's a shame.

"The adventure isn't in the destination. It's what you did on your way to where you are. It's the ultimate metaphor on life itself."
posted by FloridaRider


And, when you finally arrive at that final destination the question is - did you help others along the way? posted by xfiltrate

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