MovedThread: No thank you...........eu

[lynch180]

Hi

These are the new laws that the EU are trying to pass in Ireland, around 1000 riders myself included brought Dublin city to a standstill today to protest these new laws.............Time will tell if anyone was listening.

1- The Anti tampering Regulation: Specifically Article 18 which wants to stop all modifications to complete power train, from airbox to controlling the rear tyre profile.

2- Compulsory ABS. If we can't stop this, we must get a switch so that we have an option in difficult conditions where ABS doesn't function well.

3- Automatic headlights on- passing the blame for poor observation on to us.

4- OBD. On Board Diagnostics so that easy roadside checks can be made of our emissions and so that constant readouts of engine performance can be obtained. Expensive, complicated and with the threat, rather like a tacho, of identifying past riding style...

5- RMI. Repair and Maintenance Information. Rather than keeping it hidden and available for huge expense, there is a chance that manufacturers will be forced to provide ECU codes etc for a fee. What that fee is remains to be seen.

6- The very worrying article 52: "If systems, components or seperate technical units on a list in a delegated act to this regulation, have a dual use, for vehicles intended exclusively for racing on roads and for vehicles intended for use on public roads, they may not be sold or offered for sale to consumers"

So if your K&N filter can fit a CBR race bike and a CBR road bike, the best way to police that, is to make it illegal to sell the filter in Europe.

The Delegated Acts are the most scarey thing, as they are the lists and details drawn up by the unelected and we won't get to see what they are including until after the Regulation has been passed!

7- In solidarity with the French we will be drawing attention to their recent gov proposal to ban all bikes over 7 years old from an urban area and to make the wearing of day-glo/ reflective clothing compulsory.

8- Full sleeve day-glo clothing for riders and passengers has been proposed in the Irish Parliament too.

9- All these issues lead to the same thing, that we must take the blame for the incompetence of other road users. And while the emergency stop has been removed as a compulsory element of the car driving test, we are jumping through hoops with ill judged UK interpretation of EU licencing directives.

10- Another EU licencing Directive is on its way (3DLD) to step the bike licencing system still further and the DfT and DSA still haven't sorted even the consultation process, even though it is meant to be in law by now and enacted January 2013.

[chris]

I was on a MAG protest ride today. With a bit of luck the EU will be bankrupt before these sh!t ideas become law. After reading this nonsense I feel like voting UKIP at all future elections.

Chris

[palace15]

Why was this thread moved?

A good many HUBBERS don't bother reading anything in the HU bar and this thread needs to be read before we are all forced to swallow the EU bollox.

[chris]

Originally Posted by palace15

Why was this thread moved?

I recall it was in the Bike Friendly Accomodation section.... It has a better chance of being seen in the Bar and is IMHO a Bar room topic.

[Threewheelbonnie]

Sign here too please (the spelling isn't mine BTW):

pertition against EU Anti-tampering proposed legislation for motorcycles - e-petitions

As for the politicians I'm struggling to find one who wants less legislation rather than more. Pigs voteing for Bacon and all that.

Andy

[henryuk]

Petition signed - annoyingly MAG didn't have a start point for the ride at Silverstone, so anyone at BSB couldn't express their opinion.

It strikes me that this is a thin end of a wedge that might end up with an 'OEM parts only'. Ouch.

[BruceP]

Originally Posted by Threewheelbonnie

Sign here too please (the spelling isn't mine BTW):

pertition against EU Anti-tampering proposed legislation for motorcycles - e-petitions

As for the politicians I'm struggling to find one who wants less legislation rather than more. Pigs voteing for Bacon and all that.

Andy

Apart from the poor spelling, it is very poorly worded, unprofessional and does not spell out the issues. It will get nowhere. I would not sign one like it in he street, I will not/can not sign this.

If you browse/google the web you will see people are signing it without knowing why, or what it is about.

I also doubt many motorists knew what he hold ups where about on Sunday, apart from "bloody bikers" pissing about.

I would hope that MAG (are you reading this Paddy ?) get their act together and start a petition, properly worded with all major points in it. Then I may sign that.