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Old 9 Sep 2013
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Wash DC denies permit for 9/11 bikers

It appears as if 2 million bikers are going to ride through Washington DC
anyway. Not the DAKAR this is a WHACKAR!!! These guys just might
really walk the talk...

Any thoughts/ideas regarding a solidarity ride, with permits of course.

Report: DC denies permit for 9/11 bikers; Planners move ahead anyway | Twitchy

"Washington DC has DENIED our permit for a no-stop ride through Washington DC. We find this regretful for the residents and businesses of that great city, and humbly offer our apologies. What could have been a one or two hour ride through will now likely be an all day event. We will be obeying all laws. We will be stopping at all stoplights, stop signs, and yielding to all pedestrians.

RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES OF WASHINGTON DC: On behalf of the National “2 Million Bikers to DC” Team, please accept our sincere apologies. We did the right thing and went through the proper channels to secure a no-stop permit to ride through your great city. We wanted to ride an established route, which would have taken us past the Viet Nam Memorial to the Lincoln Memorial, across the bridge into Virginia, and that’s it! We would have been completely out of Washington DC, and your city would have been back to normal.

The National Team fully expected our permit to be rejected, and have already drafted a Plan-B.

Participants are moving forward."

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sorry, and so? Do you know how many demonstrations, meetings, etc there are in DC.?

Several thousand, much less two million, bikers riding through DC on a no-stop ride would take several hours anyway, not the quoted two hours. They already said that they expected their plan to be rejected. They'll do the ride, it will just take longer, but so what, what's the rush?
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I'm experiencing some difficulty getting riled up about this. A bunch of folks on Harleys who applied for immunity to traffic laws? Let them stop at traffic lights, like I do. Judging by the quantity and quality of their publicity--which consists largely of disjointed, all-caps pronouncements on Facebook and a lot of pointless talk about "TAKING OUR COUNTRY BACK"--they're not really deserving of much attention. IMHO, of course.

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Clarifying the issues

Thanks for your responses.

If we puncture ground swells of discontent with inane rhetoric - "immunity to traffic laws" without recognizing the fact that:

by every viable poll the citizens of the United States of America have less than 10% approval rating of the U S Congress

"Just seven percent (7%) of Likely U.S. Voters think Congress is doing a good or excellent job. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 62% rate the legislators’ performance as poor. "

[url=http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/congressional_performance]Congressional Performance - Rasmussen Reports

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday( Sept 9 , 2013 shows that 45% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Obama's job performance. Fifty-four percent (54%) disapprove .

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Look, if we do not support the peaceful expression of discontent with these polls, commonly called"taking our country back" then what options do those who are not dumbed down enough to accept the tyranny that is befalling us? These bikers may not understand that the U S is not a pure democracy as created upon the pirate ships plundering the caribbean in the 17th and 18th century, but they do know that the Congress and the President should be governed by the will of the people. Even as a Republic that we are, these approval ratings suck, and I am all for peaceful demonstrations to illustrate this fact.

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You don't like my use of the phrase "immunity to traffic laws?" Why not? That's what they were requesting: being allowed to ignore red lights, stop signs, yield signs, pedestrian crossings, etc. They were denied their request. I'm not upset. They now state that they'll go ahead with their protest, but will stop for stop signs and traffic lights, yield to pedestrians, and in other respects behave themselves. Sounds good to me.

I'm all in favor of "peaceful expression of discontent." I do it all the time.

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Ignoring the obvious

Don't you see - the only way a protest "parade" or ride through DC could occur without totally disrupting traffic for most of the day, is for the million bikers to have an escort that bypasses stop lights etc. Otherwise, the protest will destroy transportation throughout the DC route for totality of the day.

Seeing the obvious is sometimes helpful, especially when it represents common sense.

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