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Originally Posted by *Touring Ted*
If you're looking for definitions, I can only give you my opinion.
Adventure biking is when you buy a 300 KG touring bike, put knobbly tyres on it and still avoid wet car parks on your Sunday ride out. You wear a lot of Klim and own a lot of gadgets but prefer the dream more than the reality.
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By the way, if anyone has a lot of time on their hands (prison?) there are positively REAMS of threads over on ADV Rider on this subject with much heated debate back and forth ... all leading ... no where.  |
Nothing new there then, some of them can get into a heated debate about absolutely nothing
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Call it what you will, commercial definition or personal... either way.. my opinion is that
1) every bike can be an "adventure" bike it is the rider and the ride that makes it thus.
and "Adventure"
2) (good or bad ) at the end of it, it made you SMILE! 
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Nothing new there then, some of them can get into a heated debate about absolutely nothing
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Fortunately in a way, there is space for all the "ways " of travelling , an, as it is -still- not so easy to do it , some may -still- find a difference between whose are called tourists vs travellers ( the difference sounds less in english ) : this matter is as old as de rochas' engine ( books about it in the thirties )
But anyone is always the "tourist" or the " traveller " of someone else !! 
I heard this in
martial arts ( good old days of the pioneers now bla bla , but appear anew styles always like systema- love it )
paragliding about the travellers abroad ah ah
ski-ing : now it is too easy bla bla bla
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when is there not ? In a limit condition like a tsunami, a earthquake, any danger .... you are on your own , seen last time in 04' chap  
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How much danger makes it an adventure????
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In a limit condition like a tsunami, a earthquake, any danger .... you are on your own , seen last time in 04' chap |
Interesting that you allude to the 2004 Tsunami which is rapidly fading from memories.
A few years ago I worked alongside a German guy who was there on Christmas vacation, with his family.
The reason he survived along with his whole family was because they went on a boat trip that morning and were at sea when the earthquake struck.
Initially his family did not want to go on that boat trip and he had difficulty in persuading them to accompany him; if they had not done so then he was very clear in his own mind that they would not have lived beyond that day, 26th December 2004.
In his whole description to me of the event and its aftermath I don't recall him thinking of it as an "adventure".
On getting back to shore, he was involved in the clean up for at least a week; I think he sent his family home asap though - I don't quite recall that bit, and it's relevant because it addresses your immediate priorities when truly engaged in an ongoing, developing emergency situation.
His description of arrival back in home base in Germany was also interesting: the "locals" could not comprehend the dishelved state of those survivors, including their mental state.
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In my eyes an adventure is the oposit of something that is very well planed and under your control. You cant plan an adventure and you cant buy it. In fact the less money you use the more adventures your trip will become. With no money, your adventure will allready start at the first petrolstation but with lots of money you can just call your mechanic or your rescue team any time you want to do things for you. Not adventures at all...
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To quote Jawaharial Nehru (1889-1964) - "We live in a wonderful world that is full of beauty, charm and adventure. There is no end to the adventure that we can have if only we seek them with our eyes open."
I have plenty of adventures on my bike - and I have yet to leave Europe!
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I think adventure riding is anything different or a change, which makes it an adventure.
For those of us in the "West" it is an adventure to poop in a hole in a hut, wash our laundry in a stream and eat street food.
For my wife who came from SE Asia it was an Adventure to simply get to ride in a car, now getting her license! Doing laundry with the push of a button was amazing to her, and going into the wilderness where I grew up to let the Imagination of Bears, Lions and Bigfoot fill her mind? Amazing.
Whatever gives you that change, that makes your blood pump, go with it 
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Adventure is going beyond words and dreaming
When I left the academic it was because I wanted to go beyond words. I wanted adventure and as soon as I had free time to explore, I realized that adventure was all around and adventure just swallowed me up, just as xfiltrate gets swallowed up by his hammock. see video He has been in the hammock now for 37 hours and counting.
https://youtu.be/q_7AYQ6jXnc
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I'll stick with the dictionary:
"a bold, usually risky undertaking; hazardous action of uncertain outcome"
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What's in a name
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I'll stick with the dictionary:
"a bold, usually risky undertaking; hazardous action of uncertain outcome"
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Such as travelling around the Arc de Triomphe, Paris, in the rush hour (it is rumoured that all motor insurance is void when doing that - internet-based hoary old tale or ?).
Risk:
It's been discussed in the HUBB previously - it is quite a concept when explored (there's another word (verb and noun) that is often interchanged with adventure) a little.
Triumph have a motorbike named "explorer" - perhaps that makes a change from the adventurer bikes.
The rule of 7 x Ps can reduce risk to a minimum, which rather goes along with some earlier views of "adventure".
Boldness be my friend:
Is an excellent book - probably out of print nowadays.
Hazard:
See risk above.
+ building a house on a flood plain probably constitutes an adventure under this dictionary definition.
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My missus is more of planning an adventure 
She'll learn. 
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I'll stick with the dictionary:
"a bold, usually risky undertaking; hazardous action of uncertain outcome"
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How ironic.. So many people buying into 'Adventure' biking or 'Adventure' anything for that matter and totally missing the point.
They book all their hotels in advance, plan the route like a military operation, have international recovery on standby and even carry a spare GPS. There is no risk or uncertainty which means by definition, no adventure. .. And for me, no point.
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Definition of Adventure
"Don't know much about history
Don't know much biology
Don't know much about a science book
Don't know much about the French I took
Don't know much about geography
Don't know much trigonometry
Don't know much about algebra
Don't know what a slide rule is for
Now, I don't claim to be an A student
But I'm trying to be"
Sam Cooke 1960
"Adventure" is being stuck in a Hennessey hammock for almost two days due to a faulty zipper.
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I think this thread well illustrates the challenge of determining a single definition of what is or what isn't an adventure. Even Chris seems to have "massaged" his original definition.
Your adventure is what you want it to be. Just enjoy it.
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