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I cannot believe I am the first to point out, that Hollywood has proven we will ride on!  |
Only with a BMW product perhaps.
Like the cockroaches, they can survive anything.
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Only with a BMW product perhaps.
Like the cockroaches, they can survive anything.
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Unfortunately only as long as they pay big money to hollywood but not in reality. Guess why here are more problem threads about BMW bikes here then any other bike brands?
Well if the world population doubles every 25 years, in future the brand of your gun will be more importend...
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Nevertheless, the fight for resources will continue if only in lieu of the earlier battles for living space into which tribes can expand - some historians say that was why the Zulu engaged the British in battle.
The Zulu Rubicon was crossed, in the Zulu mind at least.
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One can only be expected to listen so much choral harmony before reaching for the knobkerie.
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Well but thats not because of clima change but because of money reasons.
While the people could live in peace in many other countrys as well they chose to migrate to germany because in Germany they will not only get a flat and food for free but also more cache money and children money and old peoples care etc. then they would earn while working in their home countrys or somewere else.
Right now they are building thousends of new houses for imigrants. They never did this for homeles german people.
The german governmet sees it selfe as the middle of the world but has forgotten how small Germany actually is and that they will not be able to feed everyone, if the news of free money spreads through all of Africa and Asia.
Ah and most importend: While the Government invited the people to come its not them who will have to pay for the costs of all the imigrants but its the small working german population who allready pays for Greece, Irland, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Romania etc. because nowbody ever asked them. The German depts are 80% of the tax income per year or 26.816 Euro per german citizen and rising. Now houses of imigrants are burning...
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It's one of the reasons we want to jump ship and move somewhere else. Europe isn't big enough any longer. It's not the actual space available but the small mindedness of the people (and politicians) living there.
We no longer desire a nice big house/car/TV and paycheck to pay for it all. We want to be, or at least feel free, to do what we want and be happy.
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From the reading I have done elsewhere, the correlation is that the increases in atmospheric CO2 have followed the respective ice ages; in other words, they are a result of climate change rather than the cause.
Sea levels have changed by about 12 inches in a century I have just been reading, which provides more than enough time for man to adapt - London did so actually with the construction of the Thames flood barrier in the 1970s, a project that followed on from rational debate of the day.
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Ice age is really recent and CO2 levels where low and have been low since. If we want to compare with history, we'll have to go back to the miocene when carbon dioxide levels where comparable to what we see today, some 15 million years ago, and see levels closer to 1000 inches higher... .
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Some things to consider.
The United States wastes Half of the worlds food, no poor people are not to blame, nor is population the cause of this nonsense which has to end.
Hope the Embed works.
Edit; It did not, what am I doing wrong on Embedding?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aud6n52dJCY
While the current "crisis" of migrants in Europe is viewed as a detriment, It is not. That is the same nonsense we have heard for decades upon decades in the US.
Migrants will boost Europe's economy - Nov. 6, 2015
Clamping down on Immigration in the US hurt us badly, something I also had to change my mind on about 15 years ago, sigh.
Georgia's Harsh Immigration Law Costs Millions in Unharvested Crops - The Atlantic
I am curious how many Migrants are those of you in the EU actually Seeing?
A close friend in Slovania was up in arms over all this (usually a very level headed engineer, I know the two do not go hand in hand) but a few months later he has never seen a single refugee. How much is the usual Media bait and switch?
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Am I the only one who finds the US's concern on immigrants highly ironic?
After all it is an nation of immigrants
TBH the same applies to a lot of western nations UK included.
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The migrants are put everywhere where there is space, be it in empty government buildings, schools, rented accommodation etc. etc.
None in our +/- 5000 inhabitants village yet that I know of but there were talks about putting around 50 persons in a building next to a school. Great, so the migrant kids get to go there too ? No, they were planning to put 50 grown men in there. Girls have been attacked and raped by similar groups in a village in Holland not far from here.
I'm fine with migrants, worked with a good number of them personally and I can't think of a bad thing to say about them either ! People from Brazil, Portugal, Turkey, Morocco, Afghanistan etc.
All people eager to make an honest living for them and their family and as far as I'm concerned they are welcome to do so. Unfortunately there are companies who will hire them for lower wages than they'd pay a native. So what happens: The natives get upset as "they take our jobs!" a cry echoed by the right wing parties who blame everybody for everything but come up with propaganda and not a single solution in sight.
Anyway, on with the topic in hand !
Have read through this about Co2 and Permafrost
Melting Permafrost | Weather Underground
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Yes and because no cheap flats are available for Germans in Germany anymore. The Government pays more for Immigrants then working single mothers or students can afford.
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But to be fair, The German population is declining so immigrants are welcome as someone has to pay into the pension funds.
There are also more one-person households in Germany now than ever before which also takes up a lot of housing.
The economy is doing better than every other European nation so they'll have jobs, spend money, pay taxes which in turn pays off the houses that are now created for them.
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although it seems some of the deniers do.
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More than once in this thread that perjorative, derogatory word has been used; I can't quite place when it first appeared in print anywhere else with regard to climate, separate from it's earlier, more established use for those who choose to exercise their right to free speech with regard to the holocaust.
However, see below for the way these things tend to go.
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In Turkey, to this day, it is illegal in their law to discuss the genocide of the Armenians during WW1.
There is no difference.
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Will Climate Change Spell The End of RTW Motorcycle Travel?
It's simple use of the English language.
Denier-noun
A person who denies something, especially someone who refuses to admit the truth of a concept or proposition that is supported by the majority of scientific or historical evidence:
Natural climate change is a fact (the area of debate is the level of mans influence on the process). Statements posted claiming the contrary would make the poster a denier
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The troops who faught at Rorke's Drift were, mainly, from the Royal Warwickshire Regt albeit they had recruited a goodly proportion of Welsh choristers to their ranks.
Later, as part of regt amalgamations and the like, the regt of Warwickshires became the South Wales Borderers; I suppose that was enough to justify the amount of singing in the movie of 1963. 
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It's simple use of the English language.
Denier-noun
A person who denies something, especially someone who refuses to admit the truth of a concept or proposition that is supported by the majority of scientific or historical evidence:
Natural climate change is a fact (the area of debate is the level of mans influence on the process). Statements posted claiming the contrary would make the poster a denier
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Where?
The term is over used and rarely ever applies as the main argument of the supposed "Deniers" is simply man is not the primary effect as other factors are involved. Thus making it nonsense put forth to push a political agenda, nothing more.
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Will Climate Change Spell The End of RTW Motorcycle Travel?
Another derogatory comment 
Please provide some evidence that natural climate change doesnt exist.
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