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Lightbulb TMT observations and safety- my take

Trans Maroc Trail

Worthy of note- think of it as a safety suggestion particularly aimed at those who will be converting the .kml file into GPX for use in their Garmin or other devices which can use these file formats.

@ Chris Scott- would you please not summarily delete this safety post as you previously did.
Safety applies to everyone and unnecessary moderation does little to encourage those who provide information for the benefit of others. After all, isn’t that what the Hubb was originally created for?
Thank you.


Once opened in Basecamp, the entire TMT comprises of 49 separate tracks.
Please look carefully at the length of each one- as somehow- there is a great deal of contradicting information with the distance shown in the name of the track and the actual distance covered.
I've yet to be able to replicate this error with any other of my GPX files so it is a bit of a mystery so far.
If you look at the first screen shot-(before conversion) the errors in distance are clear once compared to the second image (after corrected conversion) where I have manually corrected these discrepancies



The third image is where you can see the actual track length and it needs match what you put in manually when/if you name/rename the track.
I included this info into the track name as, BEFORE starting a new track it focuses the mind as to whether all the variables are favourable for an enjoyable ride- such as sufficient fuel+ a margin, weather, time of day and approx time needed etc etc - I hope others find this useful.

I note Chris is now using my method of placing the distance in the name of file- very gratifying!- [as it was shown on the previously converted file into GPX (with Garmin icons) which I uploaded for other to have a look at/edit but which,alas, was also deleted...]



Also worthy of consideration-

Open any track of the TMT and go to the 'Graph' tab
You will see a graph of 'Elevation', ‘Speed’ and Distance.
In Basecamp, the Speed is shown in Blue, Elevation in Green- see Picture One

In Basecamp, on a ridden/driven on the actual ground, the recorded track should show you:
Track Name and distance if you have added this manually
Then:

Index in numerical sequence
Elevation
Leg distance
Leg Time
Leg Speed
Leg Course
Time (date and time)
Position

==> See picture 'On the ground recording'


I do not know what devices Chris or Gill were using nor of any of settings they have but there are a great deal of discrepancies which I would strongly suggest you consider.
I attach an example of a recording made live, on the ground as I went along which contains the information shown see picture 'On the ground Recording'.
Compare this information to the data provided/missing/corrupted in each track and draw your own conclusions. I am not here to pick a 'bun fight' with anyone.

My repeated public thanks to Chris and Gill for their work. I shall, no doubt enjoy a few of the unknown trails (to me) in this fabulous country which is Morocco and have more of their delicious tagines.
However:
I strongly felt that 'a heads up and check the information yourself' was very much warranted due to the number of errors I have, so far, identified and I am still working on as well as the potential risks riding/driving such trails can create. It is tough enough on the ground!


Safe travels to all
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