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Photo by Alessio Corradini, on the Salar de Uyuni, Bolivia, of two locals

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Photo by Alessio Corradini,
on the Salar de Uyuni, Bolivia,
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Well, I just wanted to know the easiest way into Bolivia! If someone who has actually entered his or her moto by land has an answer about how its done and how much paper it takes, a response would be much appreciated. It costs what it costs. Not much I can do about it.

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I wonder what would our attitudes have been to driving our bikes through Germany during the Nazi regime,would we see the developing problems or would we just be glib tourists passing through happily seeing the sights,ignoring the political situation.The question is to take a stand by not supporting a regime by not spending your money on it or legitamently visit to see the situation for ourselves,the later is only really applicable is you spend about six months living there and getting sufficiently into the political reality.How many of us do that?
So lets go forth!but lets remember we are nothing more than sightseers!!!
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Hey Bert,

Might be more helpful if we stuck to the facts in this thread, no, and avoided descending into spittle-flecked, politicised provocations? If you really want to terrify us with tales of the 'red menace', why not do it in the bar, where we can respond with appropriately cheery scorn to your 'Morales is just like Hitler' nursery rhyme taunts...

Love ya Bert - you big daft quasi-fascist...

Suerte, Dan

PS Fritz - 'These are the best times that ever were because these are the only times I will ever know. I'm going to take the trip.' Great attitude.
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Talking Red Menace

I thought that,d get a reaction He He He,I seen you back posting!!!
By the way you,re the only Red Menace that I know.
The next time you make it round these parts the first nights drinking is on me,but watch out for the spittle flecks
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Well, I just wanted to know the easiest way into Bolivia! If someone who has actually entered his or her moto by land has an answer about how its done and how much paper it takes, a response would be much appreciated.
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In November of '06, I crossed from Peru to Bolivia near Copacabana, on Lake Titicaca. As far as paper, I had my passport, bike title, and driver's license. It didn't take more than an hour, and I don't believe it cost anything. Of course this was before the $100 visa thing. I am an American citizen.
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I wonder what would our attitudes have been to driving our bikes through Germany during the Nazi regime,would we see the developing problems or would we just be glib tourists passing through happily seeing the sights,ignoring the political situation.
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Sorry mate, but you just invoked "Godwin's Law", "There is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically "lost" whatever debate was in progress"

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I thought this was a bunch of fat middle aged bikers talking crap!!!
and whats this about the Nazis,without them they,d be no history channel!
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So lets go forth!but lets remember we are nothing more than sightseers!!!
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Speak for yourself, pal.

I have the sound mind in a pure body and I am as strong as an ox. I am Tarzan, Mandrake, Flash Gordon. I am Bill Shakespeare. I am Cain, Ulysses, the Flying Dutchman; I am Lot in Sodom, Deirdre of the Sorrows, Sweeney in the nightingales among trees. I am miracle ingredient Z-247. I am immensive. I'm a real, slam bang, honest to goodness, three fisted humdinger. I'm a bonafide supraman.
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Speak for yourself, pal.

I have the sound mind in a pure body and I am as strong as an ox. I am Tarzan, Mandrake, Flash Gordon. I am Bill Shakespeare. I am Cain, Ulysses, the Flying Dutchman; I am Lot in Sodom, Deirdre of the Sorrows, Sweeney in the nightingales among trees. I am miracle ingredient Z-247. I am immensive. I'm a real, slam bang, honest to goodness, three fisted humdinger. I'm a bonafide supraman.
Well, I have hybrid vigor, so I beat your literary and historical and comic book references.

I said earlier that I try to observe without judgement, but that doesn't mean I don't learn. I take my experiences home, and then I act accordingly. I might contact my congressperson and ask that the next foreign aid package to a particular country include a provision requiring border reciprocity. I might give an interview to a newspaper and voice my concerns. Whether or not my concerns are printed, I at least hope that I'll influence future editorials. This is my version of thinking globally and acting locally.

I had zero problems from Mexico to Panama. Usually I was treated like a rock star, like a visiting dignatary, like royalty, always with respect- ok not always, the El Salvador/Honduras border SUCKED. Otherwise though, everything was fine.

A week after leaving Panama there was a riot and a policeman shot and killed a construction-worker protester! My bike isn't insured. Oh crap that would have sucked to have ridden through that!

I still haven't decided it I'm going through Bolivia. Not because of the $100. (I don't have to pay it!)

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