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Rain can have both a positive or a negative effect on a rider. Some see doom and gloom at the hint of a dark cloud.
I find, as it usually does in the UK, You just push your bike out the garage and it starts to rain. This does dampen the spirits before you have even started but, If Im out on the bike and then it starts to rain, I carry on regardless.
Thing is, You cant stop nature so you have just got to work arround it.
Anyway, Thats why we pay so much cash on fancy gortex type gear!
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whats wrong with em?
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Just don't mention Harleys, I think I did once but I got away with it.
We don't want another uninformed rant from across the pond.
Maybe they don't ride in the rain over there...!
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Hey I heard that 94% of all Harleys ever Built are still on the road....
the other 6% actually made it Home! 
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Rain can have both a positive or a negative effect on a rider. Some see doom and gloom at the hint of a dark cloud.
I find, as it usually does in the UK, You just push your bike out the garage and it starts to rain. This does dampen the spirits before you have even started but, If Im out on the bike and then it starts to rain, I carry on regardless.
Thing is, You cant stop nature so you have just got to work arround it.
Anyway, Thats why we pay so much cash on fancy gortex type gear!
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Quite right and you can turn it into a navigation test: watch the clouds rolling in and try to ride around them, using the knowledge that you have stored away in your brain of the local roads (or on your GPS nowadays).
You get a feel for how fast thunderstorms, for instance, can build in intensity and how fast they can arrive, apparently out of nowhere.
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Hi Bernard. Sorry about all that, but you did set yourself up a bit! and somehow all the ignorant anti-harley bigots found the opportunity to air their views as well!
TPRAT56. I'm surprised at your comments. On my recent visit to the states last year I got the impression there were police watching everywhere with zero tolerance for the slightest infringement of the most trivial laws. Won't stop me going back but Ill make sure I'm on my best behaviour all the time.
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Dodger, your comment that Brits are very concerned about what they are "allowed" or "not allowed to do" is very interesting. I love the English, I thank God I live under a system of Common Law in my country (USA) BUT there is a major major historical difference that effects our life perspectives. Technically English citiziens are "Subjects" of the Crown. Rights are conferred (given) or taken away by the Crown to the subjects. In the US, it is the citizens that confer rights to the government. Our inalignable rights are granted by a higher power (ie God not a frigging King), the right to liberty, equality and pursuit of happiness. We are not guaranteed happiness, just the pursuit thereof. As citizens we grant the governemnt the legal authority to make law on our behalf and for our favor, not the favor of the Crown. It is a vastly different concept.
Let's look at gun control real quick - the human right to protect yourself is inalienable. This cannot be taken away. We are allowed to have guns, not so we can hunt rabbits (although that is fun) but so we can protect ourselves against the government, tyrants, and criminals.
That's all I going to say about that!
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Sorry, there is no such thing as an English citizen. You can say a British citizen of the EU, or a British subject of the UK, (or Great Britain.) England is NOT the UK, and it is wrong to think so. There is no such thing as an English passport. The UK comprises Scotland, Wales, England and Northern Ireland. The Common Law which you admire, is nothing more than a patchwork of make and mend laws, without coherent principle, and which is out of step with European and Scottish law, which follow a principled and ordered set of values.
It is backward and medieval to be "subjects", I agree, which is why many Brits want a republic, and why I am happy to be an EU citizen.
In reality, your freedom , which in practice is only marginally better than the UKs, still leads to horrors like the Iraq war, which we in the UK, to our shame and protest, joined in. You also elect men who are clearly very very dim and dangerous, like Reagan and Bush. Your point about firearms is highly debatable, and very shortsighted. Your "higher power " is of course an example of the lack of clear thinking which allows you to elect such crazies to office, advised by criminals and Neo Cons.
Riding in the rain may help you think better - I recommend it.
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Inalienable sureley? proof again Yanks cant spell!
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Martynbiker - I don't think you should comment on another's spelling. For one, it's not important, and two, your spelling is among the worst I've seen on this site. And the second word of your post is wrongly spelled.
Trust me, I teach backward children. I can help you.
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oh well.. i cant win em all.......
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Martynbiker - I don't think you should comment on another's spelling. For one, it's not important, and two, your spelling is among the worst I've seen on this site. And the second word of your post is wrongly spelled.
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I cant win em all Cammy....... but at least I have a sense of Humour! something I am afraid you are sadly lacking.
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I cant win em all Cammy....... but at least I have a sense of Humour! something I am afraid you are sadly lacking.Martyn
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Oh I think he has....
Some people get their kicks from casting the bait and watching the fish bite........
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trust me, he hasnt....
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Oh I think he has....
Some people get their kicks from casting the bait and watching the fish bite........
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It never fails to amuse me how many sportsbike riders won't even consider going out in the rain. I managed to persuade a mate of mine to go out for a ride a couple of weeks ago. He's quite a quick rider in the dry but you could see how timid he was because the road was slightly damp.
As for the political debate, don't disrespect the USA. They won the Battle of Britain all by themselves you know.
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Martynbiker - I don't think you should comment on another's spelling. For one, it's not important, and two, your spelling is among the worst I've seen on this site. And the second word of your post is wrongly spelled.
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The second word of your post is wrongly spelled!....
Should that be "present perfect":The second word of your post has been spelt incorrectly:
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there you go Caminando.....
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The second word of your post is wrongly spelled!....
Should that be "present perfect":The second word of your post has been spelt incorrectly:
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Nice one Dean!
Just for you then Caminando ....... John 8:11 Assuming you have a Bible!
or should that be " Glasshouses & Stones?"
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Nice one Dean!
Just for you then Caminando ....... John 8:11 Assuming you have a Bible!
or should that be " Glasshouses & Stones?"
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REALLY sorry Martyn just couldn't resist....
John 8:11 reads....
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"Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."
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Whereas I suspect you were actually after John 8:7
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(as per the King James and the New International)
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john 8 v 7 it was....... as i said earlier.... im not perfect!
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rain
anyway to get back to what the thread started out about.
In sunny africa I hardly ever rode in the rain, then after coming to not quite as sunny england I had to ride in the rain - or stay at home!
In 6 months my wet weather riding had improved in leaps and bounds and now I can ride as quick as I want in the rain.
If you think it's dangerous then don't f*****g do it if it scares you!
one thing I want to know tho after riding on uk's motorways in hideous spray is why can't a country that has so much rain actually build a road that water drains from?
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