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I have read that air freight is cheaper and more efficient in the real world. Anyone have any comments on this?
It's not exactly rocket science.

I read a report about the global economy a while ago and it related to the cost of transporting a batch of mobile phones for export - out of China to just about anywhere in the world.

How much would you charge?
9 UK pence per unit was the figure.
Can I send a moble phone from China to the UK for 9p? Of course not, if only because I don't fill an ISO container, 20ft or 40ft.

Ever since the invention of the ISO container, sea-based shipping has been transformed and become an industrialised, relatively high-tech process.
Incidentally, because of under "real" investment in the USA there is not currently a single port there which can receive the latest, largest container ships; that's from another business report that I read a while ago.

If you put a few bikes into a container how much volume of that container is in use, based on the standard height of a container (I think the latter is 8 ft)?
A shipper could always bulk it out with a few boxes of mobile phones.
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Grant from here had a helpful and interesting interview a few weeks ago on Adventure Rider Radio, especially the air vs sea debate. It's worth a listen.

Jeffrey Polnaja - The Impossible Journey; Motorcycle Shipping by Land or Sea — Adventure Motorcycle Podcast and Radio Show for Motorbike Touring and Travel
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To put it simply, many shipping companies are nothing but low level gangsters and inexperienced travelers who've never used Sea Freight or Freight Forwarders are easy marks for them.

This is why I often advise AGANST shipping your bike half way round the world. You must also add to the total the amount of hassle and STRESS you're put through in an unfamiliar City, perhaps not knowing the language and dealing with common criminals and liars.
Hi Mollydog, very well said. I will also start recommending travelers to buy the bike down here in South America.

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Lesson No1: BE 100% SURE that YOU ARE the CONSIGNEE that means that your name appears in this specific cell of the BoL. If you are the consignee, then its YOU that you take over your vehicle's clearance at the port of discharge meaning you can choose the customs broker you want and not the one that the Freight forwarded will "allocate" to you.
Thank you Pinproject, I did not know this ... hope this thread becomes a bit of a knowledgebase about the tricks used.

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I will also start recommending travelers to buy the bike down here in South America.
Recommending is the easy part. To be at all useful, you would also need an accurate up-to-date A to Z of how and where to buy the bike PLUS how and where to SELL the bike.
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Last time I use sea shipping consolidated created bike from Tokyo to Rotterdam cost mi additional 500 Euros at port of original 1200 US just freight for box 2.6 cubic M. ...gangsters got my money that time but no more...as last November I use air freight to ship my bike from Dusseldorf to Cancun,Mexico...took 2 days to arrive cost was 1590 E and at airport in Cancun I spend 1 hour and cost at the end was 80 US for paper work ..head on the bike all my gear,saddlebags,boots..tent,slipping bag...ekct.
Key in to the ignition and rode down toward the South...cost was little bit higher..but this is one life and no one is going to make me full again.
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Last time I use sea shipping consolidated created bike from Tokyo to Rotterdam cost mi additional 500 Euros at port of original 1200 US just freight for box 2.6 cubic M. ...gangsters got my money that time but no more...as last November I use air freight to ship my bike from Dusseldorf to Cancun,Mexico...took 2 days to arrive cost was 1590 E and at airport in Cancun I spend 1 hour and cost at the end was 80 US for paper work ..head on the bike all my gear,saddlebags,boots..tent,slipping bag...ekct.
Key in to the ignition and rode down toward the South...cost was little bit higher..but this is one life and no one is going to make me full again.
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I agree, less corruption and more professionalism with Air Freight.

More expense but much more predictable service. I've not shipped bikes IN/OUT of S. America but have shipped cargo via Air Freight several times.

Never a problem, even with USD $500K video package into Ecuador, Ghana, Ethiopia, Sudan and several EU countries. All our tech gear went into a small container (bonded). Lufthansa is one of the best in my experience. Also used Delta, Ethiopia and Cathay Pacific airlines with fair results. In S. America you may have fewer choices.
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Because of a massive threat I decided to delete the name of the company in Germany.

Would a mod pls change the name of the thread, if this is not possible please delete it completly.

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