Is there anyone out there with a permanent address in Ireland willing to let a fellow traveler use their address for motorcycle title and registration purposes?

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, so feel free to redirect me if need be.

Here's the long story behind the call for help.

I've been in contact with Martin from the Motofeirme in Ireland about getting a low budget motorcycle to tour with during my summer trip to Europe. If you're unfamiliar with who he is, he has helped tons of foreign riders purchase, register, license, and insure motorcycles for trips in Europe.

From what I've gathered from our conversation, in the past he's helped most foreign riders by putting his address on the titles of the bikes they choose to purchase in Europe so that they can be registered in Ireland. From there, insurance and green cards can be esstablished for the bike easily.

Recently he's ran into an issue with using his address to title low budget bikes for riders. At the end of the trip, what started out as a cheap used bike, is worth even less than it's small price tag was before. This makes abandoning the bike, instead of selling it before the rider departs from the traveled country, much more appealing than what it otherwise would be.

This has left Martin with numerous bikes turning up all over the place with his address on the title. Because of this, and because of the budget I have for my trip, he's suggested that I find someone willing to let me use their address to title and register the motorcycle under. While I feel that the likelyhood that I'll abandon the bike is very slim, I certainly respect Martin's wishes and understand where he is coming from. That is why I am reaching out to you guys for help.

Why would anyone volunteer to be responsible for an abandoned bike [even though it is a "slim possibility"] and be a party to a fraud?? Just askin'........

I would imagine they'd volunteer to help a fellow traveler and motorcycle enthusiast make a dream trip come true.

Afterall, I am not asking anyone to be responsible for an abandoned bike. I have friends stationed in Germany for work that are more than happy to help me sell the bike after my trip is over, even if I am unable to sell it before I leave Europe. The "slim possibility" was in reference to unforseen extenuating circumstances.

As to volunteering to be a party to fraud, I don't believe I am asking anyone to volunteer for that either. If it was out right fraudulent to use an Ireland address to title and register a vehicle under a U.S. citizen's name, I don't believe Martin and the Motofeirme would still be doing that very same thing to help others with broader budgets obtain motorcycles for their trips.

From the research I've done on the DVLA's website here
https://www.gov.uk/government/organi...censing-agency
and here
https://www.gov.uk/driving-abroad
and here
https://www.justlanded.com/english/U...rmits/Vehicles
and multiple other sources.

I haven't found anything explicitly saying that it is fraudulent. If you're aware of that being the case, please do point me in the right direction to find that information.

I have thought the details of this through would be more than happy to discuss them in depth with anyone who is interested in offering help. Even if they choose not to lend me their address after learning all the details.

So if I let Mr. John Doe use my address to register a bike in Ireland and then Mr. Doe abandons the bike in Germany where it is eventually seized by a government agency, why would the said agency not pursue me to cover the disposal costs? I image the cost of this could add up.

Isn't this why Martin is no longer doing this?


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Just for clarification: Martin at Motofeirme is based in the Republic of Ireland. The websites you quote/ DVLA is a government organisation of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. They are not the same country! The 100th anniversary of The 1916 Easter Rising is next year...

If you intended on returning the bike to the Republic of Ireland and to sell it there, you might have a chance of finding someone to help you.

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What you can do in some countries is to register the vehicle in your name using a willing friend's address. That way there is no comeback on any other person but the registered owner.

Possible in the UK, but maybe not in Ireland.

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Look, I'm sure you're a stand-up guy and have no bad intentions. However, if your "extenuating circumstances" come about you are going to reimburse the person who let you use their address for the expenses you incur by abandoning the bike, are you?

When you buy an insurance policy, if you use an address that is not yours i.e. you are not honest with them, they will not pay out. How do you plan on dealing with that eventuality?

Why not get your mates in Germany to buy a bike for you and use that?

FYI, The Republic of Ireland is not part of the UK; that misunderstanding has caused some grief over the years......

The point in my previous post about insurance is not hypothetical; most companies will not insure non-UK residents and non-UK bikes get hit with a big premium even for a UK resident.

Motofierme gives details on their webiste about a specialist broker in Germany who may be able to help and the other resources on this site also give details.

I would suggest:
1. Always be honest with the insurance company - otherwise your policy is not valid and you have paid them a bunch of money for nothing.
2. Make sure you get it - good & comprehensive coverage is a lifesaver if you need it, so insure yourself up the yin-yang.
3. Get a good travel policy from your country of origin (?USA) before you come and check the terms to make sure it covers motorcycling; there will likely be a term in there to void cover if the activity is not legal, so you have to get it right at this end with regards to vehicle registration and insurance. I've seen some right disasters where insurance companies have refused to pay out, so do your homework.

My comments have meant to be preventative and constructive, not provocative and hope they have not been misconstrued.

Save travels.

Unless the abandoned bike turns up at the registered address and bailiffs pursue the cost at that address.....

Bailiffs in the UK can only try to claim from a person, not the address/owner of the property. I'm in a rented property at the moment and the previous tenant (who moved out over 2 1/2 years ago) omitted to pay some parking fine or other. Every so often random "threatening" letters arrive. I used to return them to sender/person unknown. Now I just bin them as they're not for me.

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Yup, that's the law.
Now try getting your stuff back when it's been mistakenly taken by the bailiffs.
Let me know how you get on.

As my mum taught me never to talk to strangers, I won't be opening the door to someone I don't know.

If they kick my door in, I'll know who I'll be calling: the Police.

What I find funny is that they have only ever visited Monday to Friday 9 to 5. I work these hours, so we never meet. Never get the chance to watch daytime TV either


I think this thread might be going ....

..... Let's see if somebody in the Republic of Ireland offers an address.

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