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Just wondering: Are you able to pick up your fully-loaded dropped bike by yourself (in the middle of nowhere)?
Seems important enough when traveling far from the beaten path but my bad back just doesn't allow it. Unsure how much of an issue that could be when overlanding. (Kawaski W650, 195 kg (429 lb) (dry))
My BMW R80GS is around 200kg with some petrol but no luggage and I can pick that up but add loaded panniers and the other luggage carried when travelling and I need to unpack it.
With hard panniers neither of my bikes falls flat on the ground—not difficult to yank them upright, especially adrenaline-fueled from embarrassment from dropping in a public place. I’ve added short loops of climbing webbing, one on each side, which serve as handles at just the right height so that I don’t have to bend my knees or back too far.
On the other hand, I once dropped my bike into a ditch consisting of bottomless silty mud, and had to unload it, find large branches for levers, weep and moan and curse the unforgiving universe, make deals with both god and the devil, and do a bunch of other crazy stuff to get the bike back to vertical on a (muddy) driving surface. I was a scary sight headed down the highway after that.
With hard panniers neither of my bikes falls flat on the ground—not difficult to yank them upright, especially adrenaline-fueled from embarrassment from dropping in a public place. I’ve added short loops of climbing webbing, one on each side, which serve as handles at just the right height so that I don’t have to bend my knees or back too far.
On the other hand, I once dropped my bike into a ditch consisting of bottomless silty mud, and had to unload it, find large branches for levers, weep and moan and curse the unforgiving universe, make deals with both god and the devil, and do a bunch of other crazy stuff to get the bike back to vertical on a (muddy) driving surface. I was a scary sight headed down the highway after that.
I like the idea of the webbing loops - you use the height of the vehicle as a lever. There are also demonstrations available on You Tube (?) that show how to lift the bike most easily. I will disappear off for a while to see if I can find links to them. Back soon with a little luck.
Also, I can imagine myself with my bike in the ditch with similar language etc.
On the other hand, I once dropped my bike into a ditch consisting of bottomless silty mud, and had to unload it, find large branches for levers, weep and moan and curse the unforgiving universe, make deals with both god and the devil, and do a bunch of other crazy stuff to get the bike back to vertical on a (muddy) driving surface. I was a scary sight headed down the highway after that.
Yes I can imagine. I was running in a 10km race a few years ago when the (gale force) wind tore my glasses off and threw them into a goop filled drainage ditch. In the time it took me (not) to find them I ended up covered in black mud and had to finish the race like that. My wife wouldn't let me into the car so I had to walk the 2 miles back to where we were staying. I did get some very strange looks during that walk.
Re picking the bike up solo, I think you have to have thought this through beforehand. It's an important part of forward planning. Having a perfectly functional bike that you can't use because your foot slipped when you came to a halt and you can't pick it up is as daft a situation to find yourself in a running out of fuel in the desert. I travel on a whole range of bikes, one of which I can pick up and carry (just about), one of which I don't have a hope in hell of picking up on my own and others that are somewhere in between - at a push I can pick them up if I take them to bits (remove panniers / fuel tank / other heavy bits first). Pick up-ability is one of the factors I'll consider when deciding which one to use. It's not the only one but it is in there.
Yes I can imagine. I was running in a 10km race a few years ago when the (gale force) wind tore my glasses off and threw them into a goop filled drainage ditch. In the time it took me (not) to find them I ended up covered in black mud and had to finish the race like that. My wife wouldn't let me into the car so I had to walk the 2 miles back to where we were staying. I did get some very strange looks during that walk.
Re picking the bike up solo, I think you have to have thought this through beforehand. It's an important part of forward planning. Having a perfectly functional bike that you can't use because your foot slipped when you came to a halt and you can't pick it up is as daft a situation to find yourself in a running out of fuel in the desert. I travel on a whole range of bikes, one of which I can pick up and carry (just about), one of which I don't have a hope in hell of picking up on my own and others that are somewhere in between - at a push I can pick them up if I take them to bits (remove panniers / fuel tank / other heavy bits first). Pick up-ability is one of the factors I'll consider when deciding which one to use. It's not the only one but it is in there.
Its one of the main reasons I'm taking a crf250l to Africa. I had a gs800 but it wasn't suited for me for the trip. I dropped it in my front(very sandy) garden once and had to get a friends daughter to help me pick it up. I asked her not to say anything to anyone
usually yes, but all depends where and how you drop - on sand, mud can be a bigger problem or on the hill. Last time I dropped my tenere during log crossing took me 30 minutes to unload and push it over...
DustRiders makes a portable ratchet strap type hoist for lifting bikes. I carry one on solo off-pavement rides in the backcountry just in case I drop the bike in an awkward position or slippery ground with poor footing.
DustRiders makes a portable ratchet strap type hoist for lifting bikes. I carry one on solo off-pavement rides in the backcountry just in case I drop the bike in an awkward position or slippery ground with poor footing.
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DustRiders makes a portable ratchet strap type hoist for lifting bikes. I carry one on solo off-pavement rides in the backcountry just in case I drop the bike in an awkward position or slippery ground with poor footing.
I've had a couple of back surgeries and don't want another.
I had the DustRiders hoist and it worked well- I demo'd it on my buddies 1150GS and it came right up. Same with my fully loaded DR650. But it was heavy and bulky and usually when it came time to load up the bike, I left it home.
There's another outfit that uses the same idea, but has really streamlined the bulk and weight of their device: Dirtnapper
I just went out on a 2 day backcountry ride in Colorado, and had no qualms whatsoever about strapping it on my bike. (Didn't need to use it, so I'm happy about that too.)
Be aware (read the ADVRider thread) that this began as a very small scale manufacturing effort, and the company seems to have trouble keeping up with demand.
I'm not short on strength and have (many times!) picked up a fully loaded BMW 1200 GSA but it all depends on having the purchase points on a bike.
I dropped my XT660Z Tenere in a gorge I named 'Jaws of Jaffar' which leads to the famous Cirque de Jaffar in Morocco. Even though I unloaded the soft luggage I just couldn't lift it as there was no point low enough at the rear—a taller rider might have managed to get leverage.
No worries—even in the remotest part of Morocco, someone will be along shortly to help, and sure enough a couple of hours later a group of silver-haired French walkers came along the gorge and helped me lift it.
Later I fitted pannier rails and found these made lifting the Tenere child's play.
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Exactly. If your moto falls over, just step off it, vent out your favourite profanities, light up a cigarette, and wait for someone to come along and help you lift it. No need at all to lift the thing up by yourself, or (unless you are going waaaaay off-road) bring along any kind of hoisting device.
Exactly. If your moto falls over, just step off it, vent out your favourite profanities, light up a cigarette, and wait for someone to come along and help you lift it. No need at all to lift the thing up by yourself, or (unless you are going waaaaay off-road) bring along any kind of hoisting device.
Michael
It's always great when things work out that way, and they do, often.
There are lots of places where I don't find that to be a great strategy, though.
Exactly. If your moto falls over, just step off it, vent out your favourite profanities, light up a cigarette, and wait for someone to come along and help you lift it. No need at all to lift the thing up by yourself, or (unless you are going waaaaay off-road) bring along any kind of hoisting device.
Michael
In many parts of the US no one will stop. How often do you stop to help someone who appears to have broken down? My car died outside Vaughn NM. Lucky me, I told the 3 little kids to get out of the car and play next to the fence. Gentleman drives by sees the kids, and felt safe enough to stop and gave a lift into town. The most most kids I ever carried on my bike was two, and that was only a short ride in town. Probably would not have been enough to get help.
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