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Isn't it reasonable for kids to throw stones at us? It's their place, not ours. We have no right to be there - we visit as a priviledge; if they don't want to extend an invitation, so be it.
Look at it from their point of view.
On my RTW I came accross the kids and stones thing only once - in northern Pakistan on the KKH.
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Tough question, actually. I haven't had problems with kids throwing rocks - but dogs can sure be a problem in rural Mexico. I'd _like_ to slow down and give the offending beast a boot to the head...
but what I've found works best is to drop the speed a bit to give the dogs an easy target. They will 'triangulate' - and as they come close, I open the throttle and zip away. The dog can't think fast enough to 'reacquire' the target and it ends up eating dust.
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Isn't it reasonable for kids to throw stones at us? It's their place, not ours. We have no right to be there - we visit as a priviledge; if they don't want to extend an invitation, so be it.
Look at it from their point of view.
On my RTW I came accross the kids and stones thing only once - in northern Pakistan on the KKH.
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I cant believe what you said -that it's "reasonable" for kids to throw stones at us! It's ok for them to damage, destroy equipment, to injure, possibly kill a passing motorcyclist? Are you suffering from Christian post-colonial guilt or something?
By your shaky logic, UK kids have the right to stone and attack foreigners.
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The only time I´ve had kids through rocks at me was in Peru. I was on the road from Puno to Copocabana, Bolivia. I saw two kids rush from a field to the side of the road and knew they had something in their hands. I slowed down a bit and gunned it as I passed them, the rocks they tossed at me missed. They were pretty big rocks! Peru is also the only country I´ve managed to get my boot to ¨make contact¨ with a yapping/chasing dog. This dog came roaring off a sidewalk to my right- barking like Cujo. I slowed and his head nearly hit my front tire. My right foot (size 12 in MX boots) was already up and I hit him hard at maybe 30kmph. He went down hard and got up slow. Strange how most dogs could care less about motorycles. I often wonder what motivates the chasers.
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The only time I´ve had kids through rocks at me was in Peru. I was on the road from Puno to Copocabana, Bolivia. I saw two kids rush from a field to the side of the road and knew they had something in their hands. I slowed down a bit and gunned it as I passed them, the rocks they tossed at me missed. They were pretty big rocks! Peru is also the only country I´ve managed to get my boot to ¨make contact¨ with a yapping/chasing dog. This dog came roaring off a sidewalk to my right- barking like Cujo. I slowed and his head nearly hit my front tire. My right foot (size 12 in MX boots) was already up and I hit him hard at maybe 30kmph. He went down hard and got up slow. Don´t tell PETA! Strange how most dogs could care less about motorycles. I often wonder what motivates the chasers.
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Well done with the dog, Hook. Simon thinks it was OK for those kids to stone you with big rocks......
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Hi Denis,
Seems you're getting up to cruising speed...
I've been traveling in Tunesia, Algeria, Morocco, Mauritania several times. I've done more km's there then most people ride in a year. One kid threw one cloth of earth at the rear window once (I was riding in the passenger seat). That's maybe something like a stone every 100 days, which I personally don't see as a 'problem' when 'adventure' traveling in remote areas.
On the other side, it seems that different people had different experiences. And I'm tempted to believe this has a lot to do with how you stand in that other part of the world.
I've seen enough typical western "I'm untouchable in Africa cause I have the money and my govt will make fuss if something happens to me" style of arrogance. Maybe this has something to do with it?
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Hi Robbert
Seems you're getting into overdrive.......
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I hope he doesn´t advocate children throwing big dogs at visiting riders!
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