Splitting away from the 2015 - Heading east from Europe, add your itinerary / plans thread to keep things neat, this is a thread to get a group together to cross China late summer early autumn 2015.

Updated 10/03/15

Currently one or two groups organised leaving on at the start of September.

See from this post onwards for details: click here

Is this group still a go for August 1st? I read the rest of the thread and couldn't tell if they got grouped in with everyone in September. I'll be traveling solo on a R1200GS and plan on making the trip around this time.

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Hi Kim:

Got your PM - sounds good.

Please include with me in the e-mails.

Thanks !

I am only aware of a one group leaving in September. 'Int' is coming with us now, not sure about jose-emilio-agote.

Will do.

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Hello Again,

finally i will be able to leave for RTW trip, this year, so i could join you in early september for the crossing,

Kim, i don't send you a PM. because i still don't have 5 messages.

Tell me please if possible, what do you need to join the group. I am a solo traveller in a GS1200ADV.

Thanks

Jaime

I guess we need to start thinking about picking a date...

My plan was to enter China at the start of September as from my research this would be after the worst of the rain and landslides and before it got too cold. I am happy to push this a little later but not much past the start of October.

Thoughts?

I spoke to NAVO last year and the cost in 2013 for 1 bike on a 5 day itinerary including guides accommodation and transport (not including my own accommodation) would have been £2170

The breakdown was as follows

£500 Supporting Vehicle
£1670 Permit, Guid, Paperwork

Further breakdown of Permit, Guid, Paperwork cost.
Permtis 38 % (permits, provincial permits)
- Custom process 9% (custom process and paperwork at entry and exit ports)
- Cost for vehicles 8% (including the translation, paperwork, vehicle checking, compulsory insurance, temporary vehicle license and plates)
- Cost for drivers 8% (paperwork, photo, translation paperwork, process and temporary driving license)
NAVO's service fee 32-33% (including one guide's salary and all NAVO service from start to the tour ends when you exit China)
Cost for guide 2.5--6% (guide's meal, accommodation)

I have generally read good things about NAVO and they gave me the most detail when I spoke with them last year so I would be happy choosing them.

I think it makes more sense if just one person contacts them for the group, I am happy to do this unless someone else wants to?

Hi Kim late August early sept good for me .talked to bing at navo seem very professional and says he has people interested in a group around that time. He gave me aprox price of cny 7900 which converts to aprox 1100 Euros for 4 bikes . Sinky

That is 1100 E per person

Now then, good idea moving to a separate post. To keep things simple in my head I've been breaking down my route into one month chunks, and I had planned the crossing for the 1st September so that fits perfectly. Also means by the time I make to India the monsoon will hopefully be on the retreat.

Just echoing what you've both said already Bing sent me this.

1. If there are 4 bikes in the group, the quote is CNY 7,900 for each rider+bike.
2. If there are 3 bikes in the group, the quote is CNY 9,300 for each rider+bike.
3. If there are 2 bikes in the group, the quote is CNY 12,000 for each rider+bike.
4. If there are 1 bikes in the group, the quote is CNY 18,300 for each rider+bike.

Terms and conditions
Includes
1. All the paperwork needed for self-riding tour (national & provincial permits)
2. Cost for vehicle (Temporary driving license for vehicle, temporary vehicle number plate and insurance for vehicles.)
3. Cost for drivers ( Temporary driving license for driver)
4. Navo’s service charge ( Include the English-speaking guide, documents translation, tour organization etc.)
5. The rent, road toll, fuel for our escort vehicle.
6. The process fee for Customs clearance when enter/exit China.
7. Travel insurance for all travelers and guide.

Kim I'm quite happy for you to be our contact. My Chinese isn't that good!

All I need now is a bike, I've two weeks off work with intention of getting a DRZ sorted, three absolute belters spotted earlier and all of them sold in the last 24hrs.

Hi guys, just chasing any potential updates on the September KKH crossing (and Burma if there is any). Is there anything I can do to help out?

Hi guys just got quote for ten day crossing burma for 6 bikes and rider .10 days, 1500usd pp Will send details if interested. Kim have you any news on China Sinks

Hi sinky, definitely interested in details. If you can pass on any info you've got on entry/exit points, rough dates, and any cost breakdowns that might give me an idea of what it'll cost for two people on one bike, that'd be great. Cheers.

Welcome to the world's best kept secret, Pakistan.
KKH is pretty but the adjacent valleys like Shamshal and Deosai are even prettier and shouldn't be missed.
Keep us updated a a group of Pakistani bikers might join you.

Cheers
Omar