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Siberia summer 2013

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Following a fun trip through Central Asia and Mongolia this year (RR at http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...et-place-66414 ), and intentionally parking the bike in Mongolia, I’ll return next summer to ride a few trails and roads in Siberia.

Proposed dates are (Of course, all timings are approximate):

*Arrive UB 06July13, back at work in the UK 27Aug13. These dates are fixed: These are my skool holidays. I’m a teechah.

*Spend a day or 2 fettling the bike and then ride north on pavement to Ulan Ude and Irkutsk.

*10 to 17july13 approx ride western BAM road to Tynda.

*20 to 30july13 Ride Yakutsk/ Magadan/ Yakutsk one way via the OSR, the other via the NFR.

*Arrive Vladivostok on about 10 or 15 aug13 and put bike in box in truck or on train to Moscow/St Petersburg .While the bike is en route across Russia I'd have to find something to do to keep me amused. Then ride the bike from Moscow/ St P to the EU.

* OR ride back to UB in Mongolia on around 25Aug13 and put it in box to Germany/Europe via Oasis Guesthouse/ http://www.pan-europa.de/ ).

Many timings will clearly depend a lot on the weather. If it rains the whole time, roads will become quagmires and be a lot less fun on a fat shed like a Transalp (but with light luggage) or similar. Having read a ride report that a commercial tour succeeded on this route this year, I feel a focussed small group (2 or 3 riders) will make it through ok helping each other getting up railway embankments and across/over rivers on the BAM and negotiating rivers to Magadan.

A sketch I prepared for an earlier thread is:


Preferred style of travel: cheap (but clean) Gastinizahs (sic?), food at road side cafés, max 55mph on pavement (above that speed in top gear, my bike burns oil as if it’s going out of style. Also, I'd be surprised if road conditions/ speed restrictions allow any faster anyway).

Anyone planning anything similar?

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Very similar if not the same route in 1 4x4 next year also. Although we had planned on doing it a little later than yourself and taking a more leisurely drive through Central Asia. however the optimal time for both BAM and OSR seems to be when you have planned it.

Our calender was looking like the BAM early august but that would leave the OSR a little late in the year.

You could say we are not 'fully committed' as I have no idea if we will be allowed across the railway bridge (Kuanda) or able to cross the river. But I would like to give it a go. Same with the OSR. We will see if a viable opportunity presents itself but we don't have the biggest budget for this trip so we will see what gives.

I have done a fair bit of reading on this leg of our trip but my brain is hurting with all the info from Nordkapp in February, through Central Asia, Siberia, South Korea and then Australia. On top of that we are not returning to the UK so trying to sell everything and tie up loose ends here!

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Hi Chris,i am looking to travel to siberia next year,and plan to travel those same routes,i will be taking my xr650l and at the moment i am totally flexible as to dates.I will be back in the uk between the 27th of november and the 19th of december maybe we could meet up for a pint and a chat.
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Hi Chris,

I will do approx the same route next summer. Will ship my KTM Adventure 640 to UB, then still not sure exactly which route I will take (I never been east of UB), the UB-Ulan Ude is boring paved road, I did it already twice...

My final point would be Magadan, I want to ride the old summer road. Then either sell the bike there, or bring it by ferry to Vladivostok and sell it there, or if I can't sell it in UB or store it there for 1 year for another trip in the region... Not really sure about it.

I will most probably only be able to take 4 weeks holidays. I am thinking starting in UB about the same dates as you, in order to be on the right time on the road of bones.

I hadn't tought about the western BAM because I planned to travel alone, but if we are 2, might be interesting.

But are you sure than you can make it with a transalp? Is it ok for watercrossing? How high is the airfilter? It's a pretty heavy bike for such serious off-road isn't it?
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Very similar if not the same route in 1 4x4 next year also. Although we had planned on doing it a little later than yourself and taking a more leisurely drive through Central Asia. however the optimal time for both BAM and OSR seems to be when you have planned it.

Our calender was looking like the BAM early august but that would leave the OSR a little late in the year.

You could say we are not 'fully committed' as I have no idea if we will be allowed across the railway bridge (Kuanda) or able to cross the river. But I would like to give it a go. Same with the OSR. We will see if a viable opportunity presents itself but we don't have the biggest budget for this trip so we will see what gives.

I have done a fair bit of reading on this leg of our trip but my brain is hurting with all the info from Nordkapp in February, through Central Asia, Siberia, South Korea and then Australia. On top of that we are not returning to the UK so trying to sell everything and tie up loose ends here!

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Yeh, there are various threads on cars on bridges/trains in Siberia, including at these

http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...2012-a-59454-3


http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...editions-65523


http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...d-doubts-53144


I must admit I pay little attention to them as I’m on 2 wheels, sorry! Bikes and cars often travel at different speeds, so unless we were in the same exact place at the same time, a hook-up is unlikely to be feasible.



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Hi Chris,i am looking to travel to siberia next year,and plan to travel those same routes,i will be taking my xr650l and at the moment i am totally flexible as to dates.I will be back in the uk between the 27th of november and the 19th of december maybe we could meet up for a pint and a chat.

I’m based near Huddersfield, West Yorkshire. I like cerveza. It’d be good to meet for a chat.

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Hi Chris,

I will do approx the same route next summer. Will ship my KTM Adventure 640 to UB, then still not sure exactly which route I will take (I never been east of UB), the UB-Ulan Ude is boring paved road, I did it already twice...

My final point would be Magadan, I want to ride the old summer road. Then either sell the bike there, or bring it by ferry to Vladivostok and sell it there, or if I can't sell it in UB or store it there for 1 year for another trip in the region... Not really sure about it.

I will most probably only be able to take 4 weeks holidays. I am thinking starting in UB about the same dates as you, in order to be on the right time on the road of bones.

I hadn't tought about the western BAM because I planned to travel alone, but if we are 2, might be interesting.

But are you sure than you can make it with a transalp? Is it ok for watercrossing? How high is the airfilter? It's a pretty heavy bike for such serious off-road isn't it?

If our timings match, we could make a plan. As far as suitability of bike goes, there’s a thread I started at http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...ons-july-63433 I chose the Transalp over DRZ, so I have to make the best of it.

We all know it depends a lot on the weather (a.k.a luck) and riding ability. As much as I try, I have no influence on the former, and the latter, well, I’ll let others judge my ability, but I’ll give anything a try. If I wanted an easy life I’d fly to Spain and lie on a beach .

The air filter on the Trannie is under the seat, so not too high. On a bridge this is less of an issue. What I learnt in the following clip from my summer trip in Mongolia is to walk rivers first, just in case the current is too fast…
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Hi Chris,i,m based in surrey maybe we could meet half way?
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ps;whats ceveza is that what you guys up north feed your whippets
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Hi Zimi.
I do have a plan to do that trip, but from EU on the bike and back by a train to Moskwa. But I do have a bit heavier bike then you. I do own a BMW F 800 GS. To do the OSR alone could be tuff, but everythink depends on weather.

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Hi Rustykits,

when do you plan to be there? I think the F800Gs will make it, some did it with the 1200GS ...

Maybe we can meet somewhere on the road.

let's keep in touch

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V I have no idea if we will be allowed across the railway bridge (Kuanda) or able to cross the river.
Not a problem.

It the railway guys are being pricks (we had one this year who wanted 5000 rubles per bike for 5 bikes) return 8km to Kuanda and ask around town ... any number of local trucks will ferry you over the river for 3000 rubles for a trip (we had 5 bikes on the truck)
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Hi Chris,

I will be in Siberia in summer 2013 as well, but likely to be there a bit later than you. I am planning to be in Ulan Baator roughly end of July and get from there to Yakutsk through Lensk and from Yakutsk to Magadan potentially back and forth and exit in Vladivostok/Zarubino. If not alone, I will be considering the OSR otherwise, will take te NFR. So I would be riding Siberia mainly in August.
Anyone will be following a similar route at that time?
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Hey all, I will be Wintering in Georgia then heading into the 'Stan countries to get into Russia. I would love to travel with people once in Russia to do the summer road and/or the road of bones. I was not planning on doing these routes alone.. but.. with a group, I'm all in!

I'm on a KTM 690. As of right now, I am 6 months, 35,000 km into my RTW.

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Hi Chris,

I will be in Siberia in summer 2013 as well, but likely to be there a bit later than you. I am planning to be in Ulan Baator roughly end of July and get from there to Yakutsk through Lensk and from Yakutsk to Magadan potentially back and forth and exit in Vladivostok/Zarubino. If not alone, I will be considering the OSR otherwise, will take te NFR. So I would be riding Siberia mainly in August.
Anyone will be following a similar route at that time?
Hi Guys
Let's stay in touch. Hopefully there'll be some commonality in our ideas. My plans have changed a little, (still the same plan for earlier in the trip, but more time at the end: I've updated post #1).

I'll be more focussed on next summer early in the new year.

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Not a problem.

It the railway guys are being pricks (we had one this year who wanted 5000 rubles per bike for 5 bikes) return 8km to Kuanda and ask around town ... any number of local trucks will ferry you over the river for 3000 rubles for a trip (we had 5 bikes on the truck)
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Hi guys, I'm planning on shipping my KLR to Vladivostok late spring/early summer if i can find some people to share a container, i left it in Anchorage a couple months ago will probably ride it down to WA come spring to ship from that area. Anyways I'm wanting to do Russia, mongolia, Kazakhstan, Ukraine etc. and hopefully end up in maybe the UK. I dont know much about this region and seems like most of you do, would love to get any pointers from you all and maybe can meet a couple of you over there! The map at the first of the thread is very helpfull!
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