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Fell in Australia and the bike is wrecked. How to deal with the carnet?
I would love to leave the wreck here as it's way too expensive to make a bike out of it. Sk shipping it back to Finland doesn't seem very affordable solution.

Has anyone officially wrecked ones bike under carnet?
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Sorry to hear of your accident and I hope you are not badly hurt, I have scrapped a bike imported into another country on a TIP and the first thing to do is contact Australian customs and see if the bike can be stamped out which will probably involve taking it to a customs controlled area.
You should also contact the carnet issuer and see what they require to discharge the carnet and return your deposit, for some issuers being stamped out of Australia will be enough but others might require it to be returned to your home country.
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I would suggest contacting the NRMA which is one issuer of Carnets for Australian and ask them. Or the equivalent in the state you are in. They are nothing to do with the government and are a motorists organisation. You might have to join up.

They might suggest going to sort things out with customs because you will have to sort it out with them eventually
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Thanks for your replies. I sent a message to the issuer of my carnet and they started a discussion with the customs.

I'll write here as soon as I know better what's going to happen.

And... I'm quite okay. Bruises and a couple of stiches but nothing is really broken. Goog gear ( Arai helmet, Rukka jscket and some kevlar jeans) saved my life.
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Theoretically, if everything else fails...you can ship your wrecked bike from Cairns to Port Moresby (Papua), get an Australian exit stamp on your carnet and simply sell it there for parts. Papua does not require a carnet when shipping a vehicle in.

Last resort idea
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I have to put a caveat on this and say it was in the late 1990s.
Isuzu were testing some light trucks in Australia and the costs of returning one of them to Japan was prohibitive - it had been rolled.
We had to have a customs officer witness the wreck being cut up and crushed at a metal recyclers. It probably went back to Japan as scrap metal!!
I recall that no parts could be retrieved or recycled.


Whereabouts did the accident happen?
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We had to have a customs officer witness the wreck being cut up and crushed at a metal recyclers.

I recall that no parts could be retrieved or recycled.
If any parts are retrieved/sold then you'd be liable for customs duty on them. Scrap metal .. I don't know what customs duty would be payable on that .. I suspect they let it go. Considering the costs of transporting it you'd not be making real money.

Where the bike is, how difficult it is to retrieve and where it goes to will probably determine what customs will accept. If you can get a Police statement or a statement from the towing firm as to the bikes condition they might accept it as being written off.

The best thing to do is talk to Australian Customs with all the information you have and see what they think is the best way to proceed. Give them options and they might select a good one, or they may ask for something else.

Glad your OK.
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The accident happened 37km east of Guyra.

Anyhow. I will ship the bike back to Finland so the carnet ain't a problem anymore. It will go as normal bike. Only in papers need to be mentioned it has been in an accident.

But for some other in the same position I got an answer from the customs.
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Could you please advise the CPD carnet holder that they are required to send me the following, as I have to pass onto Australian Border Force. I have advised Australian Border Force that the CPD Carnet holder was in an accident and are awaiting for the following documents.



Copy of CPD Carnet
Copy of police report or report to insurance company (sometimes police will not attend or haven’t been called)
Copy of the counterfoil when entered into Australia
Copy of passport/visa
Receipt from wreckers that the goods were destroyed.


Once we have all of the above, this should avoid the CPD Carnet holder receiving a customs claim from the Australian Border Force.
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As for the required police report, some states have a self reporting system so you can lodge your report officially and that then forms part of your insurance claim, or in this case Carnet cancellation claim
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Sorry to hear about your accident. This would definitely take a lot of time and paperwork. This would be very interesting to hear how it did solve finally.
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The bike is now on it's way to Finland. This way there was no trouble with the carnet.

I will make a bike out of it in time.
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