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Your welcome: the other thread is now closed down - I hope it survives i.e. doesn't get completely deleted, because it does contain some interesting insights into human mis-understandings and ................ well, things like that.
There is always the other sticky thread in Trip Paperwork about insurance issues.
I think you have the two Ws mixed up here!
Warrigal 1 has now posted in here; I wonder how that happened? (Oh yea, I posted a link in there to this thread).
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"Oh dear," very confusing (tracking multi-thread posts). 
I hope that warrigal 1 understands that my ROFL comment was not directed at him personally--if that's what he thought--and that he gets the UK vehicle sorted.
Back to this thread's regularly scheduled content.
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huh very funny people, I am am still at the UK address stage
still 4 more steps to go. before the vehicle is on road. EU Brick walls
Anyway I am reading at the start of this post back in 2008
If says compulsory Liability insurance for Europe, can any one add to what that is and entails.
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If says compulsory Liability insurance for Europe, can any one add to what that is and entails.
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Oh my good god. You mean to say, with all the heated discussions re this on THAT famous thread, you still haven't worked out that this is simply another term for European Green Card cover?!
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as I said its a 5 or is that 6 step process
UK address (suplied By Rory ?) thank you very much
Insurance (3rd party), well I have quote 250 to 270 GBP, But I can't pay it. the Tranaction is being Blocked.
Road Tax UK (step 3)
MOT Inspection UK (step 4)
other insurance on the vehcile (step 5) (I might have to skip this one.) too expensive.
Green card Insurance for the European continent (step 6)
ilesmark I thought I was paying for that in 3rd party (UK)
really confusing system you European have.
pesonally I have asked the admin here to cut the other topic right Back to before Tony P , Walkerbout and Ilesmark started abusing me.
That is Demeaning me Online.
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as I said its a 5 or is that 6 step process
UK address (suplied By Rory ?) thank you very much
Insurance (3rd party), well I have quote 250 to 270 GBP, But I can't pay it. the Tranaction is being Blocked.
Road Tax UK (step 3)
MOT Inspection UK (step 4)
other insurance on the vehcile (step 5) (I might have to skip this one.) too expensive.
Green card Insurance for the European continent (step 6)
ilesmark I thought I was paying for that in 3rd party (UK)
really confusing system you european have.
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No confusion at all if you read all the advice on the thread your abuse got closed down.
Your Step 3 cannot happen until you have completed Step 4 and, if you are doing it in your name, Step 5.
And I have lost count of how many people have told you Step 6 is completely unnecessary if you have UK insurance (Step 5) as EU insurance is automatically included as a legal necessity.
In fact UK insurers do not issue Green Cards for EU at all, to anyone be they citizens of AUS, UK or the Moon.
And while here, what about my suggestion of taking legal action for your losses having paid the Visa Agency who handled your application who should have known there were rules arising because of your age?
Unless, of course, there was some other unsavoury reason from your past that the UK visa officials know about, but the agency did not.
(and don't bother wasting effort sending me PMs as twice before - although HU tell me there was an a PM sent, it never reaches my Inbox to read as I purposely keep it full to stop just that sort of thing!) 
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pesonally I have asked the admin here to cut the other topic right Back to before Tony P , Walkerbout and Ilesmark started abusing me.
That is Demeaning me Online.
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Even though we have been Demeaning You Online, we do on some level try to help (out of charity / pity, if nothing else)
Steps in the process
1) UK address (St Rory?)
2) Insurance (3rd party) - if the Tranaction is being Blocked, do it from the UK once you arrive - you can do it to start instantly and to be honest you'd be wasting your money if you started it any sooner. This will give you 3rd party cover not only in the UK but also in the Green Card area (EU plus other Green card states) for a max of 60 days.
I can see that this insurance thingie is proving difficult for you to comprehend - the best analogy I can think of is the 3rd party insurance you get as part of your 'rego' in Oz. THAT covers you not only in the state of registration, but also across the rest of Oz. At least, that was the case when I drove around Oz in a WA-registered Kingswood bought in Sydney at the start of the trip in 1993 and sold in Sydney at the end of the trip in 1994.
3) MOT Inspection UK
4) Once 3 completed, goto Road Tax UK
5) other insurance on the vehcile - I think you mean comprehensive - depends whether you think worth it. Not mandatory like 3rd party.
6) Ferry 
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In fact UK insurers do not issue Green Cards for EU at all, to anyone be they citizens of AUS, UK or the Moon.
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Which is a tad ironic in view of the title of this thread!!
Perhaps those insurers based on the mainland of Europe continue to issue green cards or maybe they do the UK practice of making a statement within either the insurance cover note or the policy document.
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Which is a tad ironic in view of the title of this thread!!
Perhaps those insurers based on the mainland of Europe continue to issue green cards or maybe they do the UK practice of making a statement within either the insurance cover note or the policy document.
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Yes, a tad ironic, but perhaps not, given the original poster back in 2008, was--in titling this thread--referring specifically to non-EU reg/ plated bikes.
Like many threads, this one has grown or morphed somewhat to include "Green Card" cover for UK-reg vehicles. OK, but sometimes difficult to understand & keep separate the different rules and practices of EU-mainland insurers covering non-EU vehicles vs. UK insurers covering UK vehicles.
Mainland Europe insurers must issue a separate Green Card document--when they issue stand-alone Green Card insurance for non-EU vehicles--because there is no other insurance policy document or cover note, at least for the end-user driver.
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No confusion at all if you read all the advice on the thread your abuse got closed down.
Your Step 3 cannot happen until you have completed Step 4 and, if you are doing it in your name, Step 5.
And I have lost count of how many people have told you Step 6 is completely unnecessary if you have UK insurance (Step 5) as EU insurance is automatically included as a legal necessity.
In fact UK insurers do not issue Green Cards for EU at all, to anyone be they citizens of AUS, UK or the Moon.
And while here, what about my suggestion of taking legal action for your losses having paid the Visa Agency who handled your application who should have known there were rules arising because of your age?
Unless, of course, there was some other unsavoury reason from your past that the UK visa officials know about, but the agency did not.
(and don't bother wasting effort sending me PMs as twice before - although HU tell me there was an a PM sent, it never reaches my Inbox to read as I purposely keep it full to stop just that sort of thing!) |
The topic is now closed because you mouthed off, and the admin blamed me
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Well here is another story $800 Australian, (400 GBP) thats all I have got to get this Sorted and the vehicle need to be back on the road from SORN UK.
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The topic is now closed because you mouthed off, and the admin blamed me
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I'm not aware my posts were offensive in any way.
As the thread still shows, it was you coming out with words like "****ing" and "bastards".
Admin never contacted me either directly or by reference on the thread, over my conduct.
In fact the very top man afterwards added a "Like" to my post - a very, very rare accolade.
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Well here is another story $800 Australian, (400 GBP) thats all I have got to get this Sorted and the vehicle need to be back on the road from SORN UK.
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And my post referred to above ended "Then next time research things more thoroughly before you commit to spending money."
That was before your above declaration of the parlous state of your funds before embarking on a road trip all over Europe.
I earnestly urge you to reread the advice in post 87 -
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...ehicle-61877-6
Otherwise you could find yourself in extreme difficulties in countries which are not sympathetic - with the added complication of different languages, unless you have good knowledge of the dozen or so EU languages.
Maybe you are sufficiently in favour in your own country that your Embassy will provide instant cash if the slightest thing goes wrong, but the EU will not look after stranded travellers, other than in jail or escorting them to deportation points.
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$800 Australian, (400 GBP) thats all I have got to get this Sorted
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Actually, 800 Australian dollars is 536 British pounds. That's all I've got to contribute to this MOST important thread at the moment.
Mark
PS: No, wait a minute. I also wanted to point out that no one's convincing anyone of anything new here. There's no fresh ground to be covered, no brand new insights to offer. Continuing to draw someone's attention to what they've refused to learn previously doesn't accomplish anything except make it more likely that this thread, too, will be locked. That won't serve any purpose that I can see.
(Edit to eliminate gratuitous verbal assaults)
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Continuing to draw someone's attention to what they've refused to learn previously doesn't accomplish anything except make it more likely that this thread, too, will be locked.
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I very much agree with the first half of the above sentence. However, this thread won't be locked. All that will happen is that abusive/unhelpful/pointless posts (by you know who) will be deleted and the poster moderated further. From a purely personal point of view, I suggest that all useful contributors refrain from undertaking any more dialogue with you know who. To borrow the name of an album by a famous 1970s punk band: You're "Flogging a Dead Horse". Just let Darwinism take its course.
There is a feature on the software to put chosen users on your "ignore list". That way you never read their stuff. Sadly I'm unable to do this. I have to read all the bs.
Or you could carry on: It does provide humorous reading , but hides the useful facts in this thread/on this forum.
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Well here is another story $800 Australian, (400 GBP) thats all I have got to get this Sorted and the vehicle need to be back on the road from SORN UK.
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Dear oh dear. I had my inklings that something like that was lurking in the background, but kept quiet. After all, we've all had times in our lives when we've been less well-off than others - but if you're in that position, maybe Tony's suggestion of selling the vehicle - and mine of backpacking instead - is the way to go.
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Short and sweet, I'm working in Morocco, resident, shipped my UK reg bike from the UK about 5 months ago and received a 6 month temp import from Casa customs. Time is running out and the bike will go back through Spain and France.
It didn't get its first MOT as it was already in Morocco when the 3 years ran out 08 model, so now I have no MOT, no road tax and now EU insurance, sounds dumb, but there is surely a way around it.
Can I get MOT/ITV, tax and insurance as soon as I enter Spain from Morocco, say in Algeciras?
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