More like 2X - but that included him going and getting it and posting it to you. You have to expect to pay for convenience.

I would like to know what triggered a rate hike from €22 to €105, though. That's pretty outrageous even for an insurance company.

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Michael Jordan
Sterling, Virginia
USofA

You say that, but in 2008 I paid €340 for a six month policy, that actually cost €132 when I got the documents through from Arisa - for €208 I'd bloody walk down the road to the local insurance office for you - hell, I could get a bargain flight* to Germany and do the paperwork myself and still be quids in! (*I was in the UK at the time I might add)

I'd be more than happy to pay Knopf tours a reasonable 'administration fee' on top of the insurance cost, but not when they charge you €56 (for something that costs €22) every month you have the policy...

Sure you might suck it up if you're only in Europe for a month or two, but I imagine most people from the US bringing their own bike over are going to want to stay for some length of time?

J x

In Stefan's defense, he gave me all sorts of good service without asking a dime--most of it unrelated to insurance. Other stuff I paid for. If he wants to market insurance with a substantial markup, that's fine with me. If I don't want to purchase from him, I won't.

He also shipped a bike for me. I'm sure he marked that up as well.....but he gave me a place to change oil and to store the bike on both ends, and he took care of various stuff that I forgot, served as go-between when I had scheduling difficulties, met me on a streetcorner when I couldn't find my way even though he had better things to do with his time.... Plus I stayed in his unfinished house and ate dinner with his adorable kids. Try asking Arisa for that kind of service.

I mean, really: my second time around I bought insurance from Arisa directly. But I made that choice deliberately. No one held a gun on me (as we Americans are fond of saying, for some unfathomable reason).

Enjoy!

Mark

(from Mendoza Argtentina, where the sun never stops shining....as far as I can tell)

well, doesn't really matter where you go nowadays to get your car/bike insured as ARISA went up to 105 euros a month!
ride safe

Hello,
I will be flying my bike to Lisbon then traveling through Spain to Morocco. Can I buy green card insurance at the airport or in Lisbon rather than doing it by mail?

thanks,

Tim

Without really knowing I dare say that it's extremely unlikely: hardly any vehicle arrives there, so who and why should they sell insurance there? Your best bet would probably be the Portuguese AA. But, if you can't find insurance on the spot then you won't have any...

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Cheers,
Peter.

Europe to NZ 2006-10

It was said somewhere (possibly here) that the costs of the German ADAC greencard insurance/ Grenzversicherung had gone up from the reasonable euro 22 a month to something astronomical.

My parents live in Germany and I asked my mum to check the new price. At her local ADAC office they said, if you do it yourself, it will cost euro105 for 29 days.

So a 400% increase! B*stards!

Chris

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TBS.com

Hello all,
I'm trying to get myself organised to do a 2-3 month tour around Europe, starting in June 2010. I plan to get one of the Hubbers to buy a bike for me in the UK, which he will onsell once I have completed the trip.
What I need to know, is just about everything about insurance I will require both in the UK and once I am in Europe. What is the deal with a green card if the bike is registered in the UK ? Who are the best people to deal with in the UK ?
I have a UK drivers license, left over from courier days in London and I can rearrange the address without too much bother, but I'm not sure if that is going to be of any assistance to me or not.
Any advice would be most welcome.
Cheers,
Gav.

Hi Gav - I'd think the best thing to do, if you are only here for two or three months, and your friend here is willing of course, is to get them to buy the bike, and tax/insure it, but with you as a named driver on the insurance policy? A UK insurance policy is valid for all EU countries, so you'll have no problem traveling in Europe (if you want to go to Morocco, you'll need to ask your insurer for an extension, it varies depending on the underwriter). To buy a bike and tax it for use in the UK, you need an insurance policy anyway - so that would have to be arranged for your friend to collect the bike. Adding you to their insurance policy should be no problem.

Having a UK licence certainly helps in this regard (as long as it is still valid, which I imagine it is, unless you're 70 years old!), and since you have no no-claims bonus for the insurance anyway, it won't matter adding you as a named driver, you'll be paying the top price for that anyway...

The only other thing you'll have to do is get a letter from the 'owner' saying they authorize you to use their bike (as the machine is still registered in their name/address) since this may be asked for abroad for example - although to be fair, there are no boarder controls to speak of between EU countries anymore...

Obviously, your friend in the UK has to trust you with 'their' bike - and their insurance policy, although since you are paying for these yourself, as long as their is an understanding/deposit between you, I'm sure that would work out?

J xx

I have just checked with Arisa, and the details now for a motorcycle really are as follows:

(minimum ) 29 days = 105,00 Euros
2 months = 210,00 Euros
3 months = 315,00 Euros
4 months = 420,00 Euros

Not much of a discount there, then...

I asked about the increase and received the reply:
'sorry, but since December 2009 we have new premiums in the motorcycle insurance. '

Bad news, indeed.
Stephan

Or...this marginally less expensive alternative:


How does Non European Green Card Insurance work?

• "15 days - Euro 70
• 30 days - Euro 90
• 45 days - Euro 120

up to 180 days - Euro 290"