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1) ........for Iran the value is 470% of a bike .....
Depends where you get the carnet.
CAA quotes 250%+.
I have no idea what the '+' is.
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Depends where you get the carnet.
CAA quotes 250%+.
I have no idea what the '+' is.
The + is probably the CAA fees .. AAA here charged $aud400 ..

Interesting that they only have 250% for Iran .. where as here it is 470% .. are our motorcycles about twice the worth of a cunk one?! )
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The + is probably the CAA fees .. AAA here charged $aud400 ..

Interesting that they only have 250% for Iran .. where as here it is 470% .. are our motorcycles about twice the worth of a cunk one?! )

Frank,
There are several others that are much different regarding CAA vs RAC.
India and Egypt might be other good examples - 98% and 55% respectively.
If you guys way down south know why the chicken crossed the road, please pass on that info.

I suspect the '+' is something else, as the CAA spells out their fees. Iran is the only country I asked about that had a '+' attached to it. So, in the end, I really don't know squat....
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So, in the end, I really don't know squat....
Same boat here. We just get on with it. After finding the money.


AAA chargees are listed here Taking Your Car Overseas - Australian Automobile Association

India etc are 400%.. but OZ is only 30% for a bike .. 100% for a car?

After a while you stop trying to make sense of it all ...
"There is no reason for it. It is just our policy."
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Okay, looks like this discussion re carnets in Africa will go-on

but

has anyone managed to get into any of the following countries with a 4x4 without a carnet?

Pakistan
India
Bangladesh
Nepal
Iran

The carte grise / passavant / laissez passer that gets mentioned here - I seem to remember this only applies to Francophone African countries - is this true, or would it help me in any of the above countries?

Thanks

Dan
Thanks Dan for this question ,exactly what I would like to know
Can enybody help us out?

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Hi Javier,

Your arguments for not NEEDING a carnet seem based on a recent travel, while those members writing above seem to have travelled some years ago. I am intending to drive from London to Ghana (possibly entering Guinea and Guinea-Bissau and Togo and Benin) and am reading the more and more about the diminishing necessity of having a Carnet. I fully agree that if it would be possible to go without Carnet there are not many reasons for chosing to go with one. Can I ask when you travelled and with what vehicle?

Many thanks Lotty
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Lotty
We are travelling from UK to Ghana starting in October 2007.
Our route is:
Morocco, Western Sahara, Mauritania, Mali, Burkino Faso, Benin, Togo, Ghana
So we would be interested in swapping notes on paperwork prepation if we could.
We started planning the trip 2 years ago and the Landy has been ready to for some time. We are now starting to sort the paperwork out, the details of which seem to have changed a little since 2005.
TIA
Ian


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Hi Javier,

Your arguments for not NEEDING a carnet seem based on a recent travel, while those members writing above seem to have travelled some years ago. I am intending to drive from London to Ghana (possibly entering Guinea and Guinea-Bissau and Togo and Benin) and am reading the more and more about the diminishing necessity of having a Carnet. I fully agree that if it would be possible to go without Carnet there are not many reasons for chosing to go with one. Can I ask when you travelled and with what vehicle?

Many thanks Lotty
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Question To carnet or not to carnet... that is the question?
Sooooooooo>??????
Morocco, Mauri, Senegal, Mali, Burkina, Ghana, Togo, Benin, Nigeria, Cameroon, Gabon, Congo, DRC, Angola, Namibia, Botswana, SA, Mozam, Malawi, Tanz, Kenya,Uganda
Going end Oct 2007 for 4 months.
Carnet or no Carnet??? Any good tips?
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To Carnet or not to Carnet
That is the question.


Guys i travelled from India through Afghan Iran and eventually into Europe without a carnet. It did prove it can be done HOWEVER it takes a fair bit of nous and alot of savvy.

Africa is a different story as The Egyptians are preety full on about the whole Carnet thing right from the get go. As a thumb rule the more 'Western' the society the more constaints imposed upon the citizens. Legal this and paperwork that... I wish you well in your travels.


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Hey guys,

I have another question that someone here may know but has to do with insurance and not a Carnet.

I have a Carnet that I got in Oman on an Omani regested vehicle and have travelled from there to Djibouti through Yemen (Havn't been asked for the Carnet as yet)! I am now in Djibouti but I believe that I require insurance to travel further, Ethiopia, Kenya and Tanzania. Would anyone have any suggestion of what to do here in this situation. I haven't been asked for it either in Yemen or Djibouti but it has to catch up with me sooner or later.

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Hi ya Ivan,



You'll get all the way without Insurance BUT at one point or another it will come down to money at the border ( which of course neatly lines the boder guards pocket). Them knowing you have no insurance but wish to continue on with your jourrney gives them a great deal of leverage- and they know it!

These are your two options:
1) Act poor, vague and obliging in an attempt to limit how much you get fleeced or 2) get creative cut and paste an insurance logo and type yourself up a high falutin legal sounding blurb.
This will at the very lest soften the fleecing blow! Of course Horizon Limited doesn't affiliate themselves with such actions

Happy travels

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